Masters week unfolds with the soul of Austin at its core as local legends Todd Leonard and Charlie Crenshaw VI join me to swing through heartening tales and insider golf insights. We tee off reminiscing about the verdant fairways of Augusta National, where long hitters like Bryson DeChambeau are favored, and where tradition is as rich as the history threading through our own Saxton family tales. Our conversation is more than just about the swing mechanics or the leaderboard standings; it's a heartfelt homage to the deep connections fostered in the Austin golf community, and the spirit of sportsmanship we cherish.
As we navigate the mental contours of the game, we spotlight Scottie Scheffler's strategic "no's" that echo beyond the green—a lesson in focus and balance that's vital across life's fairways. Hear how this simple yet powerful approach has become a linchpin for success. We also tackle the complexities introduced by the LIV Golf series, stirring the pot of tradition and evolution within the sport. And for those who love the lore as much as the links, we pay tribute to the legendary Vern Lundquist, whose masterful commentary has left a lasting impression just as indelible as the most iconic Masters moments.
Wrapping up our Masters celebration, we share a toast to the selfless acts that define the Austin community, with Todd Leonard's recent display of altruism spotlighted. The warmth of friendship and shared experiences underlines our discussion, as golf is not merely a game but a conduit to life's most profound bonds. So, whether you're an avid golfer or someone drawn to stories of human kindness and connection, this episode promises to be a memorable round through the cherished traditions and vibrant community of Austin's golf enthusiasts.
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Masters week unfolds with the soul of Austin at its core as local legends Todd Leonard and Charlie Crenshaw VI join me to swing through heartening tales and insider golf insights. We tee off reminiscing about the verdant fairways of Augusta National, where long hitters like Bryson DeChambeau are favored, and where tradition is as rich as the history threading through our own Saxton family tales. Our conversation is more than just about the swing mechanics or the leaderboard standings; it's a heartfelt homage to the deep connections fostered in the Austin golf community, and the spirit of sportsmanship we cherish.
As we navigate the mental contours of the game, we spotlight Scottie Scheffler's strategic "no's" that echo beyond the green—a lesson in focus and balance that's vital across life's fairways. Hear how this simple yet powerful approach has become a linchpin for success. We also tackle the complexities introduced by the LIV Golf series, stirring the pot of tradition and evolution within the sport. And for those who love the lore as much as the links, we pay tribute to the legendary Vern Lundquist, whose masterful commentary has left a lasting impression just as indelible as the most iconic Masters moments.
Wrapping up our Masters celebration, we share a toast to the selfless acts that define the Austin community, with Todd Leonard's recent display of altruism spotlighted. The warmth of friendship and shared experiences underlines our discussion, as golf is not merely a game but a conduit to life's most profound bonds. So, whether you're an avid golfer or someone drawn to stories of human kindness and connection, this episode promises to be a memorable round through the cherished traditions and vibrant community of Austin's golf enthusiasts.
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Speaker 1:Well, unless you've been hiding under a rock, you know what week it is the Masters week. We made it to the weekend. You know the guys who made the cuts, one of which may be a shock to you, but I've got two guys who we're going to talk about this. They're deeply involved in the golf community of Austin, texas and it just dawned on me and they're probably going to give me a hard time when I admit this we all went to the same high school, one of which, a decade later, the Masters. Let's talk about it. Well, here they are the Todd Leonard and the Charlie Crenshaw, the Six and, yes, a part of the legendary, iconic Austin Goff family, the Crenshaws I don't know if that's the type of music you would ever hear out on Augusta National, but I had to run with it because my selection was limited fellas.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm sure there's a lot of copyright deal to deal with there, but I think that you made an A-OK take, there it was good, it was good.
Speaker 1:Well, charlie Crenshaw, the sixth on the upper right and Todd Leonard, on the bottom Right. There we're both, or all three, graduates of the LC Anderson High School in Austin, texas, both of which are key figures at Balcones Country Club Todd, the head golf pro, and Charlie, he's helping people who may not have very many golf skills become skilled at golf.
Speaker 3:I try as hard as I can man, and so day to day I'm Todd's first assistant. So the guy below me right there is my boss. He's a great boss. I love the guy and uh, yeah, we do a day-to-day operation about tony's and I also teach lessons and uh, love every minute of it, man todd, uh, how do you feel about being um?
Speaker 1:charlie crinchall the six's boss? Charlie Crenshaw the 6th?
Speaker 4:is boss. I've known Charlie six years now. Every day is weirder. Every week I get a little surprised, even though I shouldn't. He's been an awful awful. He's been an awful friend. He's been an awful friend. He's been an awesome friend. He's been a great employee for me. We went back to Avery Ranch 2018 and 2019, then transferred over to Balcones, which was a great move for us. It's been great. We love it over there. It's the club that has the most fun. We love the members and the atmosphere, and it's never a dull moment, for sure.
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Speaker 1:I think the three of us, if we can get you know, we can get Todd's much better at have done. We can all make a day like a like a day. Y'all are available on a Saturday, right. I'm flexible man. You just tell me that's right, we can make it happen, as Todd is enjoying the Leonard Res resort behind them. Um guys, uh, real quick thoughts. We'll begin with Todd. Uh, your thoughts on the first two rounds of the masters. I think we've seen a ton of great golf and great moments already.
Speaker 4:Yeah, um, you know, little surprising to Shambo being up there, uh, but kind of at the same time, not really. Um, he, he can overpower that. That course can be. Not really, he can overpower that course can be overpowered. Tiger did it obviously. Bubba Watson, you've had some shorter hitters throughout the years that will win there Mike Weir, zach Johnson but if you're a bomber, then you have advantages, especially on all the par fives For those longer hitters who are really reachable. That's really where they're winning the tournament. And Bryson's won a major in 2020, the US Open, which is probably the hardest major to win. So he's looking good. But Scheffler number one player in the world, he's right up there and he's going to be there on the. You know, come the back nine Sunday.
Speaker 1:How about you, crenshaw? I mean it's? I'm not shocked at anything that happens, but you know, some very unpredictable things do happen at Augusta National, and you know that firsthand.
Speaker 3:Well.
Speaker 1:I don't know about firsthand.
Speaker 3:You know I haven't have another privilege of playing there but, um, I will say this about augusta um, from from what I've seen, obviously it's uh, it has, it has a certain mystique about it that no other major really has any major.
Speaker 3:It's hard to win, any tournament's hard to win, but in majors are very very difficult to win and I think that there is some sort of thing about Augusta National where even the best players in history couldn't quite capture a win at Augusta. Just because of what it is, of what the weekend brings, of what the history behind it, the patrons, it's just. But no, it never surprised me who's on the leaderboard during the first two rounds. It never surprised me. There's always an amateur that's up there. Somehow. There's always a Freddie Couples that's up there or a Bernhard Langer that's still like what the hell? That guy's like 500 par. And then the weekend happens and things kind of shift. But what's so special about Augusta is once that weekend hits it's moving day and then obviously Sunday. It's just there's some guys who can just win it and some guys who just will never be able to.
Speaker 1:I agree with you because I liken it now. It just dawned on me this week that the Masters is very similar to men's college basketball March Madness. You have some underdogs that make it to that second weekend and that would be relative to making it to the weekend at Augusta and that kind of is what is happening. And I just put together some bullet points of you know what, what we were thinking going into it, what would happen. And Todd, you know, I think we all, all three of us, can say Tiger has to battle much more than just the course to see the weekend. And he's done it. He made the cut at one over. I think he had an even 72, but you, you reference Deschambault. I mean is, is his game a fit for Augusta?
Speaker 4:It is. You know he, he's the crazy math guy and he's you know he's the crazy math guy and you know, two, three years ago he went the Charlie Crenshaw route and started just bulking up like crazy the gun show, yeah, so he can overpower it. Now he can become a head case, which is going to be interesting this weekend to see. If he starts making, he's going to make bogeys, you're going to make bogeys out there. So if he can, you know, just play within himself, I think he's going to be there. He's putting really well, but he can get in his own head and flame out.
Speaker 1:Charlie, I hate to ask you this because everybody loves Jordan Spieth. Yeah, but he's not playing and correct me if I'm wrong. He's not making it to the weekend. Does he still have the juice, so to speak?
Speaker 3:Man, that's. It's a loaded question. You know, I will always root for Jordan Spieth, absolutely. I'm a Longhorn through and through.
Speaker 3:I love Jordan and I wish him the best, but I don't know. It's one of those things I can't dive into the head of Jordan Spieth right now, but obviously in 2015, he was putting up numbers that were just ridiculous. They were honestly video game numbers, as I say, quote unquote. And then what happened in 2016 happened on number 12 at Augusta, and it just kind of collapsed. And he hasn't quite been the same since and I know that, you know, during certain rounds he's trying to make all these different changes and I just I wish that he would get back to just that Jordan just play, play the game like he did while you were playing in 2015.
Speaker 3:But I don't know. I honestly don't know what's going on with him. But, man, I really, really really hope for the best for him. It would be great to see him come back and have like a Scheffler and Spieth rivalry. That would be amazing, kind of like a Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw rivalry. It would be great for the PGA Tour and be great for the state of Texas. But, gosh, I just don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4:The last two years. If you've seen his pre-shot routine, it's gone bonkers. It changes almost like monthly. It seems like it just tells me he's not comfortable. He'll have one or two good rounds, but he hasn't been able to put four rounds. I think he won the Heritage last year or two years ago, but he's far from where he was in 2015.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't quite figure it out but his Longhorn counterpart, number one golfer in the world, scotty Scheffler. He was asked, I believe on Monday the press conference day, or maybe it's Tuesday about learning how to be selfish, and I think this is a lesson to everybody when, whatever field you're in, you've got to value your own time, and I I I don't know if you guys heard this, but I thought this soundbite right here uh was meaningful and I think everyone can learn from what Scotty said.
Speaker 6:Golf definitely is a selfish sport. You know you're out there by yourself and when you're at the peak of your of your game, you know people need stuff from you a lot of the time and you have to be selfish with your time and it's it's not easy to say no, but you have to learn how to say no to certain people and because, ultimately, when you come out to the golf, a tournament, you're you're here to compete and you're here to do your best and you can't really get caught up in all the stuff that's going on around you. And so I'm hoping it doesn't define me too much because, um, like, I feel like I say it a bunch golf, something that I do, it's a tremendously huge part of my life, but doesn't define me as a person.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 1:Wow, C6? Yeah, I mean that's a great perspective for anybody, but do you guys both? I mean that's got to pour over into how he approaches the game that it's. He's still treating it like it's just a hobby, almost, and yet he's the number one golfer in the world.
Speaker 3:Well, what else can you do? I mean, I think the thing that's really scary about Scotty Scheffler is that he has obviously won at the biggest stages in the world. He's won the Masters, he's won several different huge tournaments. And what's scary about Scotty is that he's not one of those guys that really pumps his fist and like screams really loud. He'll make it. He'll make a 40-foot putt and just be like yep, pick his ball out of the hole and and it goes next to. I'm like wow, that guy is. That guy is mentally so strong To see that it's unlike any other. And for him to say something like that, like you've got to learn how to say no, that reigns true. I've had to learn that in my life. I've had to tell people no. I couldn't do that a certain part of my life, but I learned how to do it. He's right. But Scott, if he continues on this path that he's on, he's going to be one of the greatest players of all time, hands down.
Speaker 1:And Todd, no does not mean yes, it just means hey, maybe later, but we've all done it. Todd, both of you take pride in your games as well as running a golf business at a country club and instructing people. I mean, have you ever heard of that perspective before of learning how to say no to certain things to improve?
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, not really. I mean, and he's, he kind of has my demeanor. I'm, I'm kind of that way. I'm never going to be on that stage, but you know, I can see where he's coming from. Because if I'm, you know, if I were, you know, let's say I make the champions Tour just as a dream in a year or two. I want to give as many autographs as I can and interviews and be cordial and not be Don Johnson's character from 10 Cup, kicking dogs behind the camera. But yeah, and I think that's why he's had the success he's had, kicking dogs behind the camera. I think that's why he's had the success he's had.
Speaker 4:He's not Tiger, he's not chasing history. His dad didn't set him up. He's like, hey, you're going to be the greatest golfer ever. He didn't have that pressure on him, which makes Tiger's record even more phenomenal that he was able to do that. It's not life or death 's, it's golf and I think that takes a lot of pressure off him. And we're seeing that with rory last year when he became kind of the ambassador between pj tour and live. All his time was spent in front of the cameras and it's it's hurt his game yeah, that's a good point and that's a whole nother podcast.
Speaker 1:The live factor and the division is caused. But hey, the hard hitting question. I have yet to go to Augusta National, but the first thing I'm going to do for a practice run I'm headed to that wherever they serve the food. I'm going to get two or three of those dollar 50 pimento cheese sandwiches. Get two or three of those dollar 50 pimento cheese sandwiches. Who which of you has eaten one of those? And are they as legit as the hype that they receive for the said pimento cheese sandwiches? Charlie?
Speaker 3:nope, I haven't had one. No, I um, I have not had one. The only pimento cheese sandwich I've ever had is the one that my father, charlie V, has made. I love pimento cheese, I love the way my dad makes it, but I've not had an authentic Augusta National pimento cheese. But I'm pretty sure, sean, that it probably tastes the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so good. It's a family-owned recipe that started back when this tournament started.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, pimento cheese is pimento cheese. It's kind of hard to screw that up. I love it. Todd, I will let you take this over, go ahead.
Speaker 4:HEB probably makes it just as good yeah.
Speaker 3:Hey Todd, do you like pimento cheese?
Speaker 4:I hate pimento cheese. I'm going to get to go to the Masters next year for the first time and I'll do the egg salad sandwich for sure.
Speaker 1:Give me all the above.
Speaker 4:I'll do that. You can have all those pimento cheese you want, Sean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you've got to worry about bowel issues if you have more than a certain few.
Speaker 4:I mean you can create other issues. That's Charlie's issue too, hi.
Speaker 1:Hi, gastroenterology, the Lundquist, Vern Lundquist, he was on two episodes ago. It was a great conversation. I think we all can agree when I say this. We've admired his work from afar. He paints pictures for everybody and for every sport. But there's something special with his voice and the way he sees things, the pauses and just lets a putt right out. Sees things, the pauses and just lets a putt right out. And for him, I know, it means we're aging quickly. But to see a legend this be his last time to call the Masters. I'll start with you, C6, and work your way down to Todd your thoughts on Vern Lundquist, and this is his last ride.
Speaker 3:I mean, gosh, there's a. It's hard to put into words what Vern meant to the Masters and to sports. He had a very artistic way of letting things happen before he spoke. And you can't find that. And you know a lot of other people, like joe buck. You know I love joe buck, but he talks and talks and talks and talks.
Speaker 3:But bern knows exactly when to just stay quiet, let it run, let things unfold, and I think that one of the most iconic moments and I know it sounds cliche to say this, but the um, the chip in 2005, number 16, good lord, it's just like I, every single time I watched that, it's like the first time I watched it because of his voice, not just because of the shot, it's because of what Vern is doing.
Speaker 3:It's just like well, here it is, and the ball starts kind of going toward the hole and it's just silence. He lets it just play out, and then it just gets all of a sudden out of nowhere, as the ball is kind of about two feet away. Oh, my goodness. And it's just like what. And then the ball drops, and it's just oh. And then the ball drops and it's just oh, in your life have you seen anything like that, it just. But any other, any other commentator would have been, like you know, the whole time talking, talking, talking, talking talking. But Vern just knew when to just shut up and let the magic happen, and I don't think you can find that in any other person these days.
Speaker 4:So he and if you ask, Vern about it.
Speaker 3:I'm sure he would say I'm not a magician, I'm just a guy, I'm just a dude, I was just you know, letting it happen, but in our, in our minds and our hearts it was like thank you for not saying anything, Thank you for not saying anything, Thank you for not saying too much in that moment, or all the moments that happened. You know, the yes sir moment. Yes, sir. It's just yeah, it's just a magician that didn't know he was a magician.
Speaker 1:Todd, before you respond, I want you to see this, both of you to see this. This is Vern, I think, on the practice round day, being interviewed, just addressing the elephant in the room, so to speak.
Speaker 2:How is the emotion, even today, Well, anticipation, a little dread, because I don't want to get emotional on the air. I know it's going to happen. I know it's going to come, but I'm going to try and stifle any, any expression of emotion. It's this is the masters crying out loud.
Speaker 1:Yeah, todd, it's. I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, it's. I'm glad that we are aging and we're going to be old men and we're going to be really old, I hope. But this is a chapter closing for us who have followed him and been a part of our lives, without him knowing it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, and, like Troy said, he's one of the few that knows when. Just to let the experience be the story, not words. You know, you're witness, we're witnessing on TV, obviously. So we feel like we're in that moment and we don't want to hear anything going on, we want to hear the crowd, we want to hear just that split second of greatness and he was great, you know, charlie talked about that one. Obviously, we're going to talk about the 86 call with Jack, you know. And the perfect time, yes, sir, when Jack raises his putter and rolls that in to go on to win. So, yeah, there's not going to be very many, uh, uh, guys like him. And and Sean, you know, the thing I'm disappointed in is both you and I know his nephews, keith and Dean, and I'm, you know, I'm kind of mad at myself that I didn't use their friendship earlier. So, yeah, yeah, they're trojans too.
Speaker 4:Thanks a lot. I was your friend, you know you could have hooked a brother up.
Speaker 1:Man, it wouldn't have taken much, right? Listen, you want to roll with us? You pay for the paint. Get your own plane ticket. We got you taken care of in Augusta. Yeah, so our guy Tiger, who made the cut for a 24-straight year at the Masters he was asked about it and I know Vern in episode 258 here, 358, he said that he was going to wait at the Champions Dinner at the bottom of the stairs to shake everyone's hand to thank them, is going to wait at the Champions Dinner at the bottom of the stairs to shake everyone's hand to thank them and said he had obviously a stronger relationship with Jack than he did Tiger. But he's going to make sure to have a conversation with Tiger. And speaking of, this is what Tiger had to say about his salute to Vern Lundquist.
Speaker 5:He has just an amazing ability to bring in the audience and describe a situation and just be able to narrate it in a way that is poetic, but it's also he describes it with emotional, with emotionality, and he just draws the audience in and it's amazing. I think it's his 40th year maybe I think it is now 39th, 40th year to be able to call the Masters, I mean that's what I grew up watching.
Speaker 1:He says exactly what all three of us were either thinking or have said. It's the same reaction, yeah, and it's strong, and I think that may be a good point for us to take a quick break and then, uh, pay tribute to our family, at our friends at hardgrove roofing and I'm sure they're pretty busy right now. After those three and four inch hailstorms bombed over, uh, they were falling like Crenshaw's drivers or whatever. You guys use a I can't even know what I'm trying to say Use your drivers out there at Balcones Country Club. Now you guys don't hit your members' roofs, I don't think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 4:It's like Charlie's Drive's hitting houses. It's like hell. I love it.
Speaker 3:I love it yeah it's awesome.
Speaker 1:Take note, these are the guys you may want, and I'm just going to warn you at the very end there's some really really low-quality acting. You'll see, you'll see another side.
Speaker 7:Here at Hardcore Roofing we try to think outside the box to kind of get the creative juices flowing. So I brought in my friend Stevie Lee, former defensive tackle for the Texas Longhorns. He's going to help the team strategize, really motivate them. Light a fire.
Speaker 2:This guy's going to block down. This guy's going to block down. You put your butt into the guard and that way my Mike Linebacker gets free to do what.
Speaker 7:Not only are they going to learn a thing or two, but they're going to also leave with a great attitude and a bunch of smiles on their faces.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. What does this have to do with roofing exactly? Get out Right now. I said get out.
Speaker 7:For me, that's what it's all about. It's just having fun, making our employees have a great time. Hargrove Roofing Know who's on your roof? Masters champion Sergio Garcia playing his 25th Masters.
Speaker 1:Well, the volume was a little low. Golf clap. You know there's got to be a cool kid. You know the short for outfit is you're fit. Sergio looked like a John Deere green commercial and we love Sergio. He's an Austinite. I know it was master of colors, but was that the loudest fit at the Masters to date that maybe you guys have noticed?
Speaker 4:He looks like a half-peeled banana.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:That's what I thought. That, or, john Deere Gray, you want to hear my take, please, all right.
Speaker 3:I mean, as long as you have the game to back it up, that's fine. I love it. I love it. Look, I think the most dangerous thing you can do in the world of golf is kind of really dress as a character, and I think the one guy that I'll always you guys can vouch for this too One guy I'll always hold dear in my heart is Payne Stewart.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, yes yeah.
Speaker 3:Payne Stewart was the most colorful player probably the PGA Tour has ever seen, but he had the game to back it up. And Sergio, I mean, I love it. It's this Spaniard in banana pants and I think it's great. He won it in 17, and he's a Masters champ, so God, who's going to gonna stop him? I think it's great. Um, I think I think that, um, golf it. It really lets you kind of let loose with your personality and lets you dress apart sometimes, and I love that. I, you know we don't, we, we don't need to all be wearing appropriate colors and in dark colors, and I like the fact that they wore banana pants.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah. Sergio 100% Sergio Angela, his wife from Austin, his father-in-law, former Texas Longhorn. He's the true Austinite. Now I got to move you guys along here to. We'll begin with Todd, your favorite Masters moment. Now, I don't mean plural. If we listed all of our favorite Masters moments, you'd be here for an hour and a half. I promise you that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, probably gosh, over the year I'm going to have to go with 97 tiger. I mean it's cliche, but you know, um, break the record, just destroy the field. Um, and just the start of and unbelievably stupid run.
Speaker 1:That was a good one. Now for crunch yrenshaw. I think I'm going to pull up a photo and I'm just guessing, just guessing. This may be your favorite Masters moment.
Speaker 3:I wasn't alive.
Speaker 1:You were a sperm cell at that time.
Speaker 3:You're close, you're close. But if you pulled up another one in 95 where he was bent over on the 72nd hole, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1:Uncle the Ben Crenshaw Austin Maroon, loyal forever yeah.
Speaker 3:How much time do I have here, sean? Is that 87? That's 84. Austin Maroon, loyal Forever. Yeah, how much time do I have?
Speaker 4:here, sean, is that 87?
Speaker 3:That's 84.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 84.
Speaker 3:That's 84 right there. And the beloved caddy. Well, that was, yeah, carl Jackson was his caddy for over 40 years, and the reason why Ben selected Carl was because he wanted somebody. I'll tell you this my uncle really, really, really wanted the Masters. That's the one tournament he really wanted his entire career. And so he was 11 years. Sean, how much time do I have you go ahead? All right? So he was 11 years.
Speaker 1:Sean, how much time do I have you go?
Speaker 3:ahead, all right. So he was 11 years into his career on the PGA Tour and he was not getting it done in the majors and he had all these expectations around him. And he finally said you know what I need? A caddy at augusta that can really tell me the lay of the land, the curvature, uh, of the putts and the undulations and the I mean freaking the blades of grass. And so he, he saw a tall gentleman out there um cutting grass and just said how long you been working here, since I was six years old. I think, all right, okay, what's your name? My name is Carl. He goes well, come, come, you want to be my caddy? Yeah, hell, yeah, I'll be your caddy. So they, they, they develop a friendship and they did very well together. They, they placed in the top five a number of times, top ten a multitude of times, but they're very special years, the one that they should have won too, was 87.
Speaker 3:They kind of let it slip in the end. But 84 and 95 were the really special ones and the picture that you're seeing there there I think that was number 14 right there where ben had a um. I said ben, uncle ben, he had a um. He had like a 70 foot putt. That was a very, very, very big, uh, right to left, swinging putt and he would have laid down and died for a two putt there. So he left his. He left his first putt about, as you can see, about 15 feet short and he, you know he really needed that two putt to for par to go on the next hole and he stepped up and and sank that putt there and it was just like. It was that moment right there when you make a par putt like that at Augusta, you know a 15 to 20 foot par putt that is so downhill I know the picture there doesn't do it justice, but it's so downhill and so right to left that you could. You could hit 99 balls and maybe make 10 of those and he made that. He made that and it was just that. That's the moment right there that he knew it was just his day in 84 um. But if you ask me my favorite, uh, master's moment? You know it's. I'm biased, of course, because my uncles won it twice. But uh, of course, there there was the Tiger chip in at 16. There's, you know, the Bubba Watson playoff. You know, hook shot that he hit. That was unbelievable.
Speaker 3:But you know, 95 was very, I was seven years old. 95 was very, I was seven years old and I remember that that friday night, uh, friday night, my dad started packing a bag and you know we went, we, me and my sisters, went to the room and said you know where are you going, dad? And he goes. I'm going to augusta, georgia. Oh my god, why he goes? Because your uncle's fixing to win the Masters and we're just like, so what, who cares? You know we didn't understand the magnitude of this thing. And he goes. Well, I'm going to go watch it. And it's because Ben, my uncle Ben, had a great, no pun intended, he had a great feeling about this. He said I need to have my brother here for this. So he called my dad. He called my dad friday night and said get to augusta right now. I'm gonna win this thing, I can feel it. And so my dad, my dad got a late plane ticket, uh, got entrance into the masters and, um, the rest is history.
Speaker 3:But like you know, that sunday I just remember it was my, my mother, my sisters, my brother and we're all kind of gathered around the living room area and that was back when there was no cell phones, there was no landline and do like. Again, sean, I didn't, I didn't understand the magnitude of it, I was 70 years old and but I just remember the phone was ringing off the hook all day. People were pounding on the door saying you know, like you know, ben's about to win this thing. And then once he finally won, it was just like because we knew that Harvey had passed. That was a big thing. Harvey Penick passed away that Monday and Ben was a pallbearer at the funeral. And then he goes back back to Augusta. After all that and his game before that was in shambles and he goes back to Augusta and wins the damn thing and it's like you couldn't write a script like that.
Speaker 3:That's incredible.
Speaker 1:I did not know that.
Speaker 3:So that, yes, as cliche as it sounds, that's my favorite Masters moment. It was the 1995 Masters when he made his final bogey putt. It was a bogey. He played for bogey right there because he was two shots ahead of Davis Love III, put in for bogey on the 72nd hole and bent over, took his hat off and cried, and that, to me, didn't get any better.
Speaker 1:That's a great story. I'm going to be honest with you both. I had never heard that before and that's, I hope, the viewer. I hope you're watching or listening to this. That's a moment in history, the story behind the story, actually. Yeah, now, todd, you'll remember this one. This is the one that really, really sticks out to me. 1986 Masters, it was raining, rain, delays. When Jack Nicklaus kept moving up the board, he surpassed Seve Ballesteros, greg Norman and then Tom Kite finished second, the former Longhorn golfer. What is going on here?
Speaker 3:There's balloons.
Speaker 1:I just had random balloons. Did y'all send balloons? No, how did that?
Speaker 7:happen. That was a.
Speaker 4:Is that a cue to say like Charlie went way too long on his story?
Speaker 1:I don't know what that was, where the random balloons came from. That was bizarre. I'm just glad it wasn't pornography. Hey, real quick, who are your two guys? Start with you, todd. What two guys will be in contention on the back nine Sunday?
Speaker 4:Scheffler for sure. You know what. Uh, sheffler for sure. Um, I'm going to you know what I'm going to say Max Homa, that's a he's leading it right now. I think. I think they're tied Um and he's. He's been playing some good golf that last couple of years he's been. He's had a ton of top tens and, um, I'm, I'm. I would actually like to see Max win it.
Speaker 1:I saw him talking to Johnny Manziel, but that doesn't mean anything who knows what that conversation was like. Yeah, C6, are you the same? You feel the same way.
Speaker 3:I mean, I've got to put Scheffler in there. I don't think that there's anything that's going to stop Scheffler, scheffler, and let's go. Dechambeau, dechambeau, yeah, yep, pga Liv, yep.
Speaker 1:PGA and Liv, they unite. I think they will unite at some point. They live, yep, they live. They unite, I think they will unite at some point. But to your point, todd, homa, scheffler and DeChambeau all tied, share the lead at 6-under. 6-under is pretty good, considering how that started. Now, before we end this, I was going to have you guys talk about Balcones Country Club, but we've clearly buried the lead story, our guy down the bottom, the head, gopro, and here we can sum it up. But this has to be talked about praise. I know Todd's not one that likes to have praise, but you saved the life of a Balcones Country Club member who was clearly having a heart attack. You didn't hesitate. You get a call, you get in a cart, you find the member on the cart path and I'm sure time stood still, but it really didn't matter because you went to work and you saved this man's life.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he got a call from a member. The guy was unconscious, turning blue, so yeah, I went out and he was out. I've never experienced anything like that before but, being trained years ago, yeah, just went straight into CPR on him. Uh, my maintenance guy, justin, came over, was assisting me. Um, we, we got a couple of gasp of air from him, um, after about 40 or 50 compressions, um got a pulse and uh, but then lost it again. Um, and worked on him for about five minutes until the paramedics showed up and then they took over and then ems came over and they started doing their thing. So you know about 12 to 15 minute ordeal of working on this member and he, he's, he's in a coma. We're praying and hopeful that he pulls through. It's a miracle just what he went through and what I was seeing, that he's still alive, still breathing. But yeah, it was almost instinctual, didn't really think about it much, but it's definitely a first for me. I'm hoping the guy pulls through so I can give him a hug.
Speaker 1:Let's pray that happens. I know the family is grateful. Crenshaw told me a little bit about it and I didn't mean to dump it on you and surprise you with it, but we can't let something like that not be discussed, because we need more great stories like that. Unfortunately, someone's health and life is at risk, but we need to hear more stories about people like you, and I know Crenshaw would have done the same thing, because you guys are wired the same way. Same type of people. Man congrats man, and that's really proud to hear that and I hope he does pull through.
Speaker 3:I really do for the family too yeah, one thing I'll say about todd is that, um, you know, no matter what the situation is about me, not just about connie's country club, but you know everyday life, that todd, truly, he put, he puts others before himself and that's what he did in that situation and he cared and went out there and took care of business and, uh, you know, I wasn't there, I was not there. I I heard about it just through text message and I was like god, are you kidding me? But that's the kind of guy. That's the kind of guy who todd really is, yeah and that's, but that's the kind of guy that's going to go.
Speaker 1:Todd really is and that's, and so you watching or listening whatever platform you're listening to this episode. This is what it's about Individuals, humans like this, and a big shout out to Todd Leonard. And he was raised well by a great mom and dad too. So was C6. And We'll really be praying for that man's life and his family as well. Gentlemen, I appreciate it. Hopefully we can coordinate and get back together Sunday after all this is done and we find out who will win it. Scotty Scheffler Won't name names at Augusta man. I've enjoyed it. We need to do this more often.
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure. Do it again.
Speaker 1:Do it again, and we'll do it.
Speaker 4:Maybe when the chariot races kick off, we'll break it down.
Speaker 1:We need to do it from the Leonard Resort Just north of Austin. We won't reveal location.
Speaker 4:I'm at Witness Protection.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's right, Clearly you're living in a great Witness Protection program behind you. So for C6, lee Charlie Crenshaw the 6, and Todd Leonard, go visit them at Balcones Country Club. And for all you watching and listening hey, when it's Masters Week, you know what. It's always good to talk about it. Thank you.