Ep 386: Former Dallas Cowboy, George Teague joined us for The Pass Rush with Stevie Lee, From Saban’s Legacy to Modern Coaching: Insights and Rivalries with George Teague

What does it take to transition from a legendary coach like Nick Saban at Alabama? Join us for an exhilarating conversation with George Teague, celebrated former Alabama Crimson Tide and Dallas Cowboys player, as he shares his unique insights and personal anecdotes. We dive into the heart of the SEC with previews of media days, reflections on Coach Saban's enduring legacy, and riveting tales from the fierce Texas vs. Texas A&M rivalry. You'll hear how Coach Brown's motivational tactics sparked intense performances and get a glimpse into the historic Texas vs. Arkansas matchups through the lens of Coach Sark.

We dig deep into the challenges and expectations that come with following in the footsteps of coaching giants. George and Stevie explore the balance between tradition and innovation, discussing how modernizing coaching approaches can connect with younger athletes. Discover how fun and relaxation, like playing music during practice, can positively impact players' performance and mental well-being. This episode underscores the importance of evolving coaching methods to meet the changing needs of student-athletes while maintaining a successful football program.

Our analysis then shifts to the Dallas Cowboys, where we break down Dak Prescott's technical prowess, dissect CeeDee Lamb's consistency issues, and scrutinize the defense's struggles. Engaging in spirited debates about roster management and offseason moves, including the addition of Mike Zimmer, we examine whether these changes can strengthen the defense. We wrap up the episode with some lighthearted banter, touching on Willie Nelson's smoking buddies, and a lively debate over "shopping carts" versus "buggies." Join us for a mix of insightful football analysis, camaraderie, and social commentary, all punctuated with a hearty "Roll Tide" to celebrate the vibrant SEC community.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Thank you for joining us for this episode of the Pass Rush with Stevie Lee, and we have got a great show planned for you. We also have a guest which will join us about a third of the way into the show. He's actually one of my favorite people to talk to. He has lived it. He has had a great life. I love following him on social media. He won a national championship and he's one of the top 100 players all time for Alabama Crimson Tide football and he is a Dallas Cowboys fan favorite for sure. He is now somewhat in the media on the side and it is going to be fun and his takes are phenomenal. Get ready for a fun ride on episode 386. Let's ride so.

Speaker 2: 1:31

They're not going to run the SEC. There's a whole lot of arrogant people in a lot of places in the.

Speaker 4: 1:35

SEC so they can forget all about that.

Speaker 2: 1:38

They'll be a good team and a great program and circle do a great job, but that's not going to be a problem.

Speaker 1: 1:45

It's a little different. Stevie lee, uh, you sec media days up in dallas says I cannot figure out these boxes, man, I am dysfunctional to a t. You heard coach saving funny to a point and we'll get into that with uh our guests that we have. But uh, alabama is not dead unless agree. Well, you don't have to agree, but he may have stepped down but Alabama's going nowhere. Is that your feeling from the SEC media days?

Speaker 5: 2:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It still has the heartbeat of saving right now over there. I'm going to believe that until they show me otherwise. So I'll be watching close to the season.

Speaker 1: 2:25

Well, I can't wait and we, as I said here in a few minutes, we're going to bring on a guy that so much fun and he has a great insight, great opinions, played the game at a high level in college and won a national championship and, of course, he was fun to watch with the Dallas Cowboys as well. Now the big rivalry that you have talked about a lot. It has not been played since 2011. Quinn Ewers had a history lesson from his dad and everyone talks about Texas OU and I know we do the same thing, but he mentioned that his dad told him that that rivalry meant more to him as a fan than did the OU game. What's your take on that?

Speaker 5: 3:13

I can see that for sure. The Texas OU game was a lot of fun. It was in a neutral site, but I'm from Louisiana. But I'm from Louisiana and I knew that Texas played Texas A&M and I knew that it was going to be fun and a good rivalry before I got to Texas. But when I got to Texas it was a whole different story.

Speaker 5: 3:35

After we played that last game, usually against Texas Tech, we have two weeks. We have a bye week and then we play A&M. Well, that whole two weeks Coach Brown would pipe in the Aggies fight song in our locker room and play it on a loop all day, all night on a loop. I know the whole song just because those two weeks it was on a loop in our locker room to where we were tired of it and were ready to go kick some ass afterwards when the game came around. So a lot of my teammates played in the state of Texas. All those kids over there played in the state of Texas. We really, really got up for that game. Hence I never lost to an Aggie.

Speaker 1: 4:22

Now the other rivalry game. I think you got to play them once Arkansas. They were a huge rival for many years. And Sark went on record to say Arkansas hates Texas more than they like themselves. And here's what the Razorbacks had to say about that. And it was hey, they're not wrong. At least they're admitting it.

Speaker 4: 4:47

So I would say he's probably right. You know the difference is.

Speaker 6: 4:53

Texas is certainly a different team than what we played. That was his first year there and now you know obviously he's a great coach, great guy.

Speaker 3: 5:02

I watched the media today. I seen Coach said that we hate them more than we love ourselves and I'm not going to lie I laughed. I laughed a little bit when he said that, but I wasn't here when the robbery, when they had the robbery and things like that. But I feel like it's going to be a fun game. I get to go against some people I played against in the Little League that was on my Little League football team, that Some people I played against in the Little League that was on my Little League football team.

Speaker 1: 5:25

That's pretty cool and we've talked about it a lot. Three years ago I was there for that game. I sat with family who were Arkansas season ticket holders. I've been to some hostile places. I thought Kyle Field has always been hostile. I thought OU can be hostile for certain fan bases and I'm trying to think Missouri kind of, but not really. But I was verbally abused for four quarters in Fayetteville, arkansas. Tailgating was okay but that's a great venue, absolutely.

Speaker 5: 5:59

It's a really good venue to watch rivalry college football man. It is a big rivalry. During my five years at the University of Texas my redshirt year and my four years playing I lost one home game. One home game and that home game was against Houston Nutt and his Arkansas Razorbacks, matt Jones, a big quarterback Matt Jones.

Speaker 5: 6:22

Matt Jones. He was on our scouting report as a good throwing arm with decent speed. I think they should have said a great speed and a decent throwing arm, because he ran around that corner on us all day and that's the only game I lost in DKR Stadium. And then my senior year we go up to Arkansas and we get them back. So you know it's going to be fun, a good rivalry. And I told you once before you know us going over to the SEC is creating a bunch of different rivalries for us, not only just them.

Speaker 1: 6:58

Yeah, so Texas will go back to Fayetteville, but I think it's going to be 11 am kickoff man. I'm too excited right now, and I'm excited right now because who we're about to see and I'm going to give you a quick tease of who you're about to meet. He's a guy that I just like, a fan of football, but he's an even better person Comical, absolutely, hilarious. And this was him back in his prime, Steve, you missed him by like, I think, 10 years Shotgun from the 29.

Speaker 4: 7:31

They're down by 14. And Beretta intercepted by Teague, george Teague to the end zone Touchdown.

Speaker 1: 7:47

Rumor has it that George T can still do that high stepping. Is there any truth to that? Gt?

Speaker 4: 7:53

Oh man, I was high stepping when you played that music at the beginning. I'm trying to figure it out. You and Stevie put that music out. I'm trying to like man, that's something I don't know about. Sean over here.

Speaker 5: 8:02

That's all, sean, man. That's all Sean. That's the producer right there, man.

Speaker 1: 8:09

Oh man, gt man. Oh man, gt man. This is hey, he's a. He's a veteran. This is second time to be his now. He was on board when we were just strictly audio we were just getting this thing off the ground he launched uh, teague's takes about that time. Um, and go ahead and follow george teague on twitter. And teague's takes comical, insightful, good knowledge and he's really well connected to coaches, players, current past and you know, you really gather what's fact. Nothing against the media, I was in it for 21 years but you get more facts and really what's going on on the sidelines or within programs. Man, I appreciate you joining us, brother. Thank you, man, I appreciate you joining us brother.

Speaker 4: 8:51

Thank you, man. I appreciate it and I do remember when we were just speaking in the early days of, you know, trying to get this going. It's awesome to remain friends and you know and be a part of your show. I appreciate you.

Speaker 1: 9:04

And Stevie.

Speaker 5: 9:05

Welcome to the show, man. I appreciate you taking the time out to come on the show with us. Man, I'm really excited about this. We've interviewed and had a lot of people on, but this is really special for me, man, so I appreciate it.

Speaker 4: 9:19

That's good man. I'm too close to this Texas stuff too, man, I've got to say, because I don't know what the age difference is between you guys. But I've had Jonathan Scott, who is an offensive lineman there for Texas, on my show and I've coached with him here in Dallas and we got a good friendship too. So I feel like I'm way too close to that program than I need to be.

Speaker 5: 9:43

Jonathan Scott and I. We played together for I think two or three years I'm probably two or three years, one or two years older than he is. We would battle together. I tell people the story. How I knew that Texas was back is year before last. When Shark got here I think it was his second year here. There were some scraps in practice. I said there are scraps in practice, like me and jonathan used to scrap in practice oh, okay I'm gonna have to ask him hit him up about

Speaker 5: 10:18

this yeah oh yeah, man. So, uh, when you see the inner competition between the lines and your line, the d-line and the offensive line is scrapping during practice and things like that, but still also going to eat together after the practice, you know Right, and that's you gelling as a team and you're challenging each other, man. So when I saw that because I've gone to practices ever since I got done and there was a time that we didn't see that in practice, that people were just going through the motions in practice and now they're starting to fight and compete in practice that people were just going through the motions in practice and now they're starting to fight in competing practice. It's now we're starting to be good again.

Speaker 1: 10:54

One thing you did that allows you that's your head coach and AD, that the summer months and education allows you to do things like this. You were able to experience your first big media days. You crashed the SEC media days party in Dallas. You know you're with one of the Acho brothers there and what was tell us about it? Because I've done several Big 12 media days and Southland Conference media days. The feedback I got was phenomenal from day one, everything.

Speaker 4: 11:26

First of all, sean, you said several. I don't think 18 counts as several. That's like a tremendous amount. Several is four or five. You've got a whole lot of them.

Speaker 4: 11:39

So for me to go to this first one, first of all, I didn't even know what to expect. I'd never been, I'd never really asked anybody about it. It was crazy mad with media people, right. That was almost at a level of uncomfort and you don't hear that from, I guess, former athletes a lot of times Like, hey, we don't know how to fit in, but man, it was like the rush of trying to get these interviews and get next to that coach or next to these players. You know they're not necessarily walking up to me or whatever. For that I'm like having to get into the crowd and be like hey, hey, you know, give me a minute. I need two questions, two questions, you know, just give me a second. You know it was different for me, right, and it took me a minute to get my feet kind of wet and really make that happen.

Speaker 4: 12:24

But I think what I enjoyed the most too is that I didn't realize how many former players on one side of the other were actually in the media, right, um, whether it's baseball or or football or something that nature that every time I talked to someone they had a great story about when they played baseball for texas or at alabama or or auburn, you know, or whatever. I'm like man. This is so cool, and when we talk about that camaraderie that they were able to give me tips and advice. Hey, you need to go stand over there, because that's where they're gonna be, you know. Or you need to talk to that person here's her name or his name to try to help you get ahead of this interview, so you're not just out here scrambling, set something up. So I felt like a freshman, like a little puppy there, but I was going to take all my pictures, that's for sure. So I appreciate you putting that one up on the screen right there, because I look kind of fly right there by the SEC.

Speaker 1: 13:21

I have no doubt about it you look like the commissioners. You look like Sankey's successor.

Speaker 5: 13:29

And there's another picture with a longhorn too, man.

Speaker 4: 13:35

So you got longhorns all around you. Well, you know how it is. It is that I didn't post it because I didn't want people to think I was like fanboy, like that or whatever. But I got a picture of Sark, you know, and being able to talk to him and do some things to that nature, and I'm like, oh man, you know people are going to think I'm maybe hating on Alabama or something because he left there, going to Texas, like you know, following or something. But I'll tell you what you hadn't asked me and I don't know if you're going to ask me, but he gave a very powerful talk at me today. His opening statements were really good and moving and just kind of showed where their strengths are and how good they're going to be next year.

Speaker 1: 14:16

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Speaker 5: 14:39

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Speaker 1: 14:42

And you really will. It's hard to trust people nowadays.

Speaker 5: 14:47

Those guys are trustworthy, prompt. Every time I call them For anybody that needs help, they're right on top of the coach. I've got the Austin office running like a well-oiled machine man, so give them a call. Give Mary a call down there. Like I said, hard-grove roofing Know who's on your roof. Hard grow roofing know who's on your roof GT.

Speaker 1: 15:15

I think we all know that I have a lot of. We all respect coaches who follow legends, because it usually doesn't work out real well. If you look back, Charlie Strong following Mack Brown, I mean it goes deeper than that. It's just hard. It's really hard because the expectations are too high. But DeBoer was asked about that um, and I liked his response and would love to get your take after this soundbite from nick saban's successor how much that entered into your thinking before you accepted.

Speaker 6: 15:46

Yeah, you know, um, I get it, I totally get it. Um, understand? Uh, I mean, there's only one Coach Saban. There will only ever be one Coach Saban. And you know this program is special and I guess I just take it as a great honor to be the one that gets to do everything we can to carry on the great tradition. So much blood, sweat and tears whether it's the players and the alumni that have been in this program or coaches and obviously referring to coach Saban so much is put into this place. We all have alma maters, right, we all have places that we have great pride in, and you always want that to be home and and we always want to make those people proud of their alma mater and the work that's been put in to set this program up for success. But for me personally, it was just more about just understanding that you know, coaching football is coaching football.

Speaker 1: 16:41

I mean that's about as good as anyone could say or reply to that. I mean you're invested in that program. You, literally that's who you are, crimson Tide. I mean, do you envy him or do you feel good about what he's inherited and him moving forward?

Speaker 4: 17:01

Man. I feel good about it and I've had multiple opportunities to be able to talk to him personally. But and he did answer that great, because what he didn't say, he did say there was one, nick Saban, but he didn't say that there was only one Brinks truck, cuz one of those Brinks truck backed up to his house to help him make that decision pretty fast To get over here. You know what I mean. It is a great place to coach and it is going to be very hard to follow that because the expectations could be unreal and unrealistic for him. I think what Greg Byrne has given him, and even Coach Saban, is the resources, the people, the contacts, all this kind of stuff. You look at how his recruiting has still stayed on track. That has been the key because if that would have fell off, the process could have been very, very bad.

Speaker 4: 17:57

He is totally different from Nick Saban in the way he handles his business and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 4: 18:01

Not in a bad way, it's just different. My words that I've used in that is he is a little more modern. Like I said, he can relate to these kids in a different way. They're playing music at practice now. Sabre didn't do that. You know they're shooting videos and different things. Sabre didn't allow that. That doesn't mean you can't get to the same results with that. The guys are responding to him, you talk to him. That's why a lot of them are I don't know, I guess staying too also like something fresh, something new. So if he can get them to play at the level that he wants them to play, while they're having all the fun and all the other things that maybe Nick didn't allow them to do, I don't see why we still shouldn't be competitive in the SEC and beyond.

Speaker 5: 18:45

Yeah, I agree with you, man, especially when you said that they're playing music in practice, they're doing the videos and things like that. Something clicked like that at the University of Texas back when I was playing when Vince Young came in. Coach Brown was real stiff, real Nick Saban like. And then when Vince got here, vince brought a boombox into the locker room and they let us play our own music In the locker room and we were doing our own thing and everybody was loose, relaxed and actually having a good time and wanting to come into the locker room and just hang out. That scares me a little bit. They're doing that over at Bama now. The kids are having fun. Man Winning is fun, but also in between weeks you still want to have fun with your guys and that relaxes you. It's up to the coaches now for them to put in a good game plan and have them execute.

Speaker 4: 19:42

Well, stevie, the mental toll that you have as a player, that you know most don't get experience of after that loss or even after that win. If you're still just so on edge about something, you need to be able to relax a little bit, have fun, um, and cherish those most. You know you got to get back to work, you got to get back to practice. You got to get back to practice, you got to get back to the weight room. But I think the stress that was put on our players at Bama the mental piece and I know there was so much of the mental aspect that Saban worked on with that how to overcome. But there's still something about being 18 years old, right? No question, no question, that's a great way of putting it. Yes, you got to relax and chill just a little bit because you still got to go to class.

Speaker 4: 20:28

You got family, you got friends, you got girlfriends. You can't get wrapped up in stuff too much.

Speaker 1: 20:32

A ton of obligations, man. I don't think people still to this day understand the life of a student athlete. You know I love hearing your feedback on so many things. But now that Texas is in the SEC and I hope that the schedule guides allow Alabama and Texas to play more frequently, and you know the rivalries from the old Southwest Conference are back on the docket. I mean they're back on and get your take and then we'll evolve to this. This is ut's record against their true rivals since 1980. I mean you know texas ain't in the big one. You know they're right down the middle 16 and 16, you know, and oh, you leads. And then texas has a you, a small margin against Arkansas. I think this is shocking for some to see. I definitely was on the A&M side. I thought maybe Texas had a four or five game lead, but it's not true. But GT, I think Steve and I both say that Texas is entering the SEC probably at the right time. The way their team is constructed, do you see that or do you see things differently?

Speaker 4: 21:49

No, I think they're primed and ready, more so than Oklahoma and probably more so than Arkansas. They're already in the conference or whatever. So you know, I think that what Sark has already done so fast and so rapidly is kind of build this team where, you know, he's taken what he learned about the recruiting for the SEC and I think he had already started to apply that to the university, and so I think they're going to have pretty good success here. When you're talking about these rivals, I've got to say this it did surprise me a little bit too. I thought you were a little bit further ahead of Texas A&M than that, and I know how the hatred that they have for UT as well. I'm close enough to many people and it's just like they just despise them. Now they just even have worse now that Texas is following them over to the SEC.

Speaker 4: 22:49

They're like, oh my gosh, I think y'all are going to run A&M out of the SEC, because y'all go ahead and beat them a couple times, they might go to jail Again. But hats off to Sark, because what you've done up front with you guys, right, steve, the certain way've got to play up there and y'all are so big and so fast, particularly on the defensive side of the ball, that they're built there. If there's one area and he said it, I heard him say it, but I'd already been researching it, I guess, or whatnot is you've got to fix that secondary, because if you're going to come in it is a lot of speed. There's a lot of people are going to be throwing a ball around. I know we talk about the ground, the pound of the SEC and all that, but man, them dudes we get. They be taking some shots down there. If you don't get to the secondary right, that could be a cause for headache during the year for for Texas.

Speaker 5: 23:44

Yeah, when I, when I look at the University of Texas and look at their defense, the number one thing that we need to get together and I don't want to say fix, but yeah, fix is the D-line. We lost two great All-Americans, first-rounders right in Byron Murphy and Trevon DeSweat. I mean, it's hard to replace people like that, but we got some big guys. I think that they need to work on their footwork, like they're big, like those two guys are left but they don't have the feet like those two guys. Then number two is the secondary. You're right, there's a lot of teams that can still go deep on us.

Speaker 5: 24:29

We're not playing LSU this year, but always, whenever I think of SEC offenses, I think about all those badass receivers at LSU running across the field, not necessarily up and down the field, but going across and comeback routes and things like that. And so I do. I totally agree with you that we got to. We got to step that the secondary up. I got faith in Blake getting played at the University of Texas. He's doing a really good job of recruiting for the DBs. But you know the X's and O's on the field and playing with your mind on the field is what's going to actually put these guys over to the next level. You know that's true. Yeah, so those are the two areas on the defense.

Speaker 4: 25:26

Hopefully you don't take this back to Alabama and then spread it around. The SEC man, I'm screen recording this right now.

Speaker 1: 25:29

Oh, he's up. I will say that the interior D-line they did pick up some portal guys, I think, from Arizona. But, then again Stevie's point. It's been a concern. When you replace two high NFL round draft picks it's going to be tough for anybody. But you know, I think if they get at least average play up front on the interior I think they'll contend for the SEC 10-2 year, maybe 11-1.

Speaker 5: 26:02

Well, let me go back to that real quick man, I'll be quick. I know we got a lot to get into, but this likens to my time. I was recruited to replace sean rogers and, uh, casey hampton and I don't know, uh, george, if you remember those guys, but um, huge defensive lineman that went in the first round, just like these two guys left, and, and me and Marcus Tubbs were recruited and played their backup when they were here their senior year until I broke my foot and got medical red shirt. And then, you know, we recruited, you know, marco Martin and Larry Dibbles and Rod Wright and all that stuff, to try to just even fix the hole was left from those two guys. Right, so it could be done, we did it, we were winning back in my day, but it's really hard to replace two big holes like that.

Speaker 4: 26:59

You know, I agree.

Speaker 1: 27:00

I agree, and Alabama's done it over and over. But the one your quarterback, jalen Mrow love that kid, great energy. I was shocked that when one of his targets, isaiah Bond, transferred and Milrow was asked about that because he transferred to Texas. He's sale-oriented.

Speaker 5: 27:20

He's a team guy, so to see him go is tough, but no, I'm very excited for him because he has another opportunity to play somewhere else, and so I'm super excited for him in the future.

Speaker 1: 27:32

So did that shock you? Teague that Bond left Alabama, or do you think it was simply because of Saban leaving?

Speaker 4: 27:42

I think it was a combination of both. I don't know if transfer shocked me anymore no, honestly, because it just seemed like it's kind of a thing to do. You know, someone's tampering I guess I'll use that word, but they're offering you some money. I get it. You know, I'm not saying Texas is doing that I'm talking about in general. So it's easy now to move and to go chase other things playing time, dollars, whatever it is. So, um, I can see where you know, maybe he won a better opportunity. I think isaiah thought that, um, he was probably better than some of the guys not getting enough catches that he probably should have in the system that we've had in the past few years, and so I can I can concur with that a little bit. He's a he's a very good football player, and I think that, uh, he probably wanted to have some more catches, so it was an easy exit for him.

Speaker 4: 28:34

When, when saban left I'll tell you what I appreciate the most about that, though was jayden milroy just taking the high road and always just, you know, saying the right things. You know there's he gets so much criticism about his play and other things, but every time you talk to him, man, it's just something funny, it's something inspirational. Is you know him working? And it just he's the type of dude that I've been around him before, but this is the first time I actually got to talk to him at the sec media days and well, I just left out of there. I I'm like man. This dude here is bright, he is sharp, he is on it. If he has the right coaching and the right tools. There's no telling what this guy could be as far as a quarterback, but even more so as a human being. It's pretty cool to see he still has those kind of relationships with guys who have left the program.

Speaker 5: 29:28

The Texas in me. The Texas in me is a little more cynical. But, sean, you know I'm a positive guy. Right, you're a positive guy. But, melrose, what he said to me in that interview, what I listened to in my third year, is Bond left Alabama because he couldn't get on the field, because we have way more talented receivers, so he went to Texas to try to get on the field. That's what I heard from him.

Speaker 4: 29:54

Well, it's probably true in the sense that most guys leave when they feel like they can't get on. The question we have to ask ourselves is why he couldn't get on the field right, or why he wasn't throwing him the ball or whatever it is. You know that. You know now, we were defensive players, right, so it's a little bit different. We're not necessarily having to fight for it, but it would be the same thing if you never got a blitz. Why I don't get a blitz, why I don't get a blitz, why I don't get a running twist, why he always going to go around and be one-on-one with Gordon. I'm dealing with the double team all the time. You know what I mean. I'm going to go over here where he's telling me I can go ahead and be one-on-one on the edge all the time. So it doesn't mean what he wanted as a player.

Speaker 5: 30:46

Yeah, that's what you're supposed to say, but I'm going to use this as bulletin board for my guys.

Speaker 4: 30:53

Right, that's true. You know what I guess? Maybe the good thing, or not so good thing, because it would be kind of fun to match up again. Shoot, trust us, we want to play Texas again.

Speaker 4: 31:06

We got a sour taste in our mouth too. Man, we need to get one back. You know what I'm saying? That's my thing. And if there's other people on there it's like, yeah, we need to show you too. That's the player side that really happens. But you know, we got to worry about when we talk about rivalries, we got to worry about what Auburn's doing, regardless of how good they are or not. You know that's the one we definitely don't want to lose just for state bragging rights, no question.

Speaker 1: 31:34

GT, so we keep. All we're talking about is Texas, georgia, a little bit of A&M Ole Miss, I mean with the expanded 12-team playoff. What team in the SEC is not receiving enough love that you think people should be talking about?

Speaker 4: 31:53

Missouri. Oh yeah, they've continued. I mean they've gotten better. They do got some dogs on there. Wide receiver in Luther is absolutely phenomenal and if you can't figure out a way to stop this dude, you know their defense played well. I mean, they really watched the film on them. You don't see a whole lot of big name guys about it, but they all seem to. Just they're gelling together right. The coaching staff is doing something. Listen to the the coach talk a little bit and it was really trying to how you develop those guys and get to the pros. I like what he's talking about. He's trying to develop those guys that can go get there. You know, getting plays, guys to play for each other, um, so I you know. I don't know that they're one of the best in there, but they've shown they got the ability to be able to do it. They want this new pod structure and all this they could sneak up on. Some people make a little bit more noise than we think.

Speaker 1: 32:55

I can see that I really can, stevie, have you, have you thought about, is it? Is it? You know, people always expect LSU, but is there one thing that's really you're circling back to and you're thinking you're intrigued by this team or that nobody's giving a lot of pub for?

Speaker 5: 33:14

I always thought that Tennessee was going to try to figure out a way to get back. Good, you know, they got too much money up there and there's another UT coming into their space and they got something to prove. Like I said, us going into the SEC, we picked up A&M as a rival, we picked up Arkansas as a rival again. Our LSU rivalry is going to come back around too. I mean it's next door states. And then who is the real UT rivalry too? That's huge. Like we're not coming over to the SEC, thinking it's going to be a cakewalk in a kumbaya party. We got to know we got a target on our backs. Man and everybody in the SEC is going to want to beat up on us and say I told you I was hard over here. So I'm thinking everybody's going to give us their best shot, even little bitty Vanderbilt up in Tennessee, they're going to do it.

Speaker 6: 34:12

Stop man.

Speaker 5: 34:13

Stop with that little bitty Vanderbilt. I'm serious man. Everybody's going to give us the best shot man. Everybody, stop with that man. I think Florida can turn, turn back, turn around to man. Stop stop, stop. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 4: 34:40

Y'all should make up your rivalry with Tennessee, call it. We need to make up our own new Orange Bowl. So there's the Orange Bowl, but y'all battling these Oranges. You got two different. You know Oranges, and I think it's going to be fun to watch to see how that turns out, what y'all fan bases are going to be saying.

Speaker 5: 34:59

Yeah, that's going to be really fun, man, even though Tennessee they're the older university, am I correct? They're older than us, but we may have the most winningest program out of the two, so we'll see. That's a slight jab right there.

Speaker 4: 35:14

That sound bite you're talking about. You're talking about bulletin board material.

Speaker 1: 35:18

That's bulletin board. Boom Rhyme up on Rocky Top, let's go and what they got?

Speaker 5: 35:23

a dog, Is it a collie? Is there a dog? Is it a collie, Is there a dog? You're volunteers. What are y'all volunteering? Losses, you know? Oh, oh man, I forgot you were screen recording. Dang it, man.

Speaker 1: 35:39

He's getting to Knoxville right now giving it straight to Hypel. Hey, it only took what 11, 10 years to happen, but it's back. Ea Sports, it's in the game, yeah, man. So give me start, Stevie, what would your overall player rating be?

Speaker 5: 36:04

My overall player rating.

Speaker 1: 36:06

Yeah.

Speaker 5: 36:07

Oh man, hey, I got to put myself at a 99. It ain't going to happen, but I'm a 99. But whenever it was out back in the day, they didn't have our names on the game, but they had our numbers, height and weight on the game. So number 93, 305 pounds I was more than like 315 at 6'5" right, and so I would always play with the University of Texas and I would put my controller on me and play me, you know. So I'm so happy that this is back. All my friends have gotten back into it. I haven't gotten back into it. They said it's like muscle memory man Getting back into it. But now they got their names, their faces, their real likeness into this game. I'll check it out one of these days. I'm just too busy right now.

Speaker 1: 36:59

You'd be like a 92, or is that disrespectful?

Speaker 4: 37:03

That's too low man. What you talking about, bud. You're a 99, huh Peace. Well, you know what I'm going to say, that I probably would be a 98. Okay, let's go, just because I can immediately say that I probably dropped too many interceptions back in my day, even though I had a bunch. I was fast, I was physical. So if you're looking at the categories of physicality, speed, smarts and all that off the chart or whatever, Pans probably put me at 96 or something of that nature Probably would skew my score a little bit. That's why I didn't win the interception title for the SEC at that time. So you're a little bit. That's why I didn't win the interception title for the SEC at that time.

Speaker 5: 37:48

You're a little bit more humble than I am. I'm a 99, bro, Even though I could have worked on my pass rush. I know the segment is called Pass Rush with Stevie Lee, but I love run stopping. I love making a power right there in the middle of the field. Man.

Speaker 4: 38:03

I'm more angry about all of this with what it is that we have to capitalize the way that we wish we wouldn't capitalize. You doctor said that our name number. Everybody knew who it was. We knew exactly us. We weren't getting a check that they was getting like that. So you know. Now all this back paid, did they give him back to 2016 or whatever? No, we need to go back to the 90s, you know? Cut a little bit of something come on man.

Speaker 5: 38:28

Like I saw that uh article and I was like, oh, I said my wife, I said hey, I might be getting a check, and then I read the fine print 2016. What's the significance of 2016.? Because they were doing it all the way back when yeah, oh my god, he wrote the rule.

Speaker 4: 38:46

Probably was a former player that uh started out, probably his freshman year or something like that.

Speaker 5: 38:53

That's exactly what it was, exactly man come on.

Speaker 1: 38:56

That's terrible, that's shameful right there. But you know we've gone all this entire time with that. We got to give some aggie love in here. So one aggie linebacker, tarion York this was what he said about it because he gets to play with himself. Whoa, he gets to utilize. It's a blessing to be in the video game, to play as yourself, to be on the front page of A&M, to have my teammates and my friends back home to be able to play as me as well.

Speaker 1: 39:24

It's like it's a full circle moment for me, Full circle not playing with himself.

Speaker 5: 39:29

Play as yourself. Huh, play as yourself.

Speaker 1: 39:31

Huh.

Speaker 5: 39:31

Play as yourself. Hey. Words are important.

Speaker 4: 39:35

Very important. Have you been to an Aggies game? Have you been to their stadium to see how they play on the sideline? I'm talking about the fans and everything else. They got to play themselves a little bit out there. Yeah, whatever going on, I'm just saying it's a little weird, you know it's so weird, man.

Speaker 5: 39:56

It's so weird, I don't know what. It's so weird, man, and all my Aggie friends. I get on them hard Like dude, like what are y'all doing, man? What is this? You know? At least the only saving grace they got is you know, apparently you're supposed to take a date to the game and whenever they score, you kiss your date. That was it, that's it. That's not bad I took a recruiting visit there and as soon as I got out of the car I said this ain't the place for me.

Speaker 4: 40:21

Well, maybe he should have changed his words and said that I get to play with someone else. Ha Myself.

Speaker 1: 40:38

That? That's funny, oh my god. So we end the first segment. Second segment's very short. It's a new segment involving photos. Look at this. So, captain, this we got to begin with the guy who's the focal point of it. George Tigg, this is you against Gino Toretto, miami. Is that the year Gino Toretto won the Heisman?

Speaker 4: 40:59

It is.

Speaker 1: 41:00

It is. That's the Sugar Bowl. That's the loudest. I've heard the Sugar Bowl on TV.

Speaker 4: 41:05

I wanted a piece of that Heisman. He was talking about a lack of being humble. I guess I had my Heisman pose ready after I scored my touchdown there, but I couldn't get it in because I was getting hit over the head.

Speaker 5: 41:18

But anyway, that's a great picture, man.

Speaker 1: 41:24

No, it is.

Speaker 4: 41:25

But you saying capture this though. Every time I see this, right, yeah, it makes me think of myself. Maybe you got a question for people like this. I look at the people in the background because you got the cheerleader on the left. She's an absolute whore. She knows what's going on. The one on the right, she's just I don't know, she's just being a cheerleader. The guy with the biggest money shot has the camcorder in his hand. He's not even recording a play, he's not at all. And so I mean there's all kinds of stuff going on in this picture other than me just taking a ball. Yeah, so I guess my caption is going to be what in the hell is going on in the background? That's right.

Speaker 1: 42:11

There's too many things going on my caption is, I'll take that.

Speaker 5: 42:18

I'll take that.

Speaker 4: 42:26

Thank you.

Speaker 5: 42:28

Appreciate it. Appreciate it. That was the Brinch truck. Maybe it Appreciate it. That was the Brinks truck.

Speaker 4: 42:34

Maybe I'll call it Brinks truck, that was the one that got me paid right there.

Speaker 1: 42:39

Man, that's real nice.

Speaker 5: 42:41

That's the one that got you paid, then that's the money shot.

Speaker 6: 42:45

Yay.

Speaker 5: 42:45

Boom yes.

Speaker 1: 42:51

There you go. Hey, let's take a quick break and We'll hit on the Cowboys Briefly and we're going to have some fun. In the second segment it moves really fast. We've got to give a shout out to Hargrove Roofing and you get to see some acting done by your guy over here on the top right here at Hargrove Roofing, and you get to see some acting done by your guy over here on the top right.

Speaker 2: 43:14

Here at Hargrove Roofing we try to think outside the box, to kind of get the creative juices flowing. So I brought in my friend Stevie Lee, former defensive tackle for the Texas Longhorns. He's going to help the team strategize, really motivate them. Light a fire.

Speaker 5: 43:27

This guy's going to block down. This guy's going to block down. You. Put your butt into the guard and that way my Mike linebacker gets free to do what.

Speaker 2: 43:37

Not only are they gonna learn a thing or two, but they're gonna also leave with a great attitude and a bunch of smiles on their faces.

Speaker 1: 43:44

I'm sorry, what does this have to?

Speaker 6: 43:46

do with roofing exactly Get out.

Speaker 3: 43:51

Right now I Get out Right now.

Speaker 5: 43:52

I said get out.

Speaker 2: 43:55

For me, that's what it's all about. It's just having fun making our employees have a great time. Hargrove.

Speaker 1: 44:17

Roofing. Know who's on your roof? All right, I think, dak him in the foot boot. The boot on the foot has nothing for us to worry about. Are you buying that T?

Speaker 4: 44:42

Bro, I wish he would play football like he was dancing, loosen up a little bit and then put it loose. I was saying I mean, yeah, I don't think we have any issues with his foot and all that kind of stuff. I believe it. I mean I can't imagine going through the injury that he had to go through and actually come back and play. But you know, we just need a tad bit more. His numbers are good, stats are good, everything's good. It's the, it's the it factor.

Speaker 4: 45:12

We call it right Stevie Lee, that I think he misses or doesn't have in those biggest moments where he can make something happen because he's very technically sound. Sometimes, as players, you need to be in that zone. There's probably some game where they couldn't block Steve. He was just doing whatever, knocking people off. You know me and the Sugar Bowl. Things are just happening. You strip the ball, you get an interception, you get a tackle, you get these moments and he doesn't really have that moment where you're just like, man, this dude is crazy out here and he can't be stopped. He's completing every pass, so he needs to have that for us to be able to win a Super.

Speaker 5: 45:49

Bowl. Well golly, I totally agree with you. I totally 100% agree with you. But that last playoff game and I can't put that on Dak man. I never did want to really put it on Dak, but you know he's heavy as the head to wear the crown. But CeeDee Lamb dropped a lot of balls in that game and didn't run the routes like he was supposed to run the routes. I watched those little things in those games like that man, so I'm not putting it on CD, but CD did not help his quarterback that game.

Speaker 4: 46:25

No, I wouldn't even go with Dak in that game. Honestly, yeah, it's that line. I'm going totally on the defense. I mean 200 yards rushing or whatever it was, it couldn't tackle nobody. Is that coaching? Is that players? I think it was a culmination of it all. They just finally caught up. No linebackers, no true linebackers. We got Mike Parsons playing down. You're playing with undersized guys. Safety in there. It was going to catch up with them sooner or later. It just caught up with them at the wrong time.

Speaker 5: 46:57

Yeah, so that's the barbershop argument, man. So for me, cd Lamb, catching the ball, getting the first down is keeping the defense off the field. Let's keep the defense off. If the defense is not playing well, keep them off the field. Keep the offense on.

Speaker 4: 47:11

I got it, but it wasn't like we were getting no three and even no three and outs. They even had one play for about 40 yards real quick. I mean, you know it as a coach those explosive plays hurt man. You can't give up 20-yard runs consistently early on.

Speaker 5: 47:31

All right.

Speaker 4: 47:31

You drop the pass. You got to stop the doggone run man yeah.

Speaker 5: 47:36

All right, I hear you. I hear you, I'll think about that.

Speaker 4: 47:42

Up front. I mean, I'm with you, right. So one of the things we do on Teague's Take is exactly what you do. We try to look at the plays, the actual plays, and dissect what really really happened, who's out of position, and not necessarily just ragging on somebody, but it's what was supposed to happen on that play. In your great commercial that you had there, you were talking about down blocks and what that has to do with the linebacker. How does a linebacker help the double team come off with that guy so he can make a play? Right, we weren't doing that. We had guys running past people, you know, in the gaps, running past the ball. Fundamental things that are. It doesn't matter if he dropped, if CD dropped more passes. If you're just running past quarterback or taking bad angles on defense man, they're just going to light the scoreboard up. You got Jordan Love who just got broke off.

Speaker 1: 48:46

That earned him a contract extension.

Speaker 4: 48:51

Yeah, being signed or guys that are being sound. You just got to play sound football. We weren't playing very sound at all in any area with the Cowboys and Packers game.

Speaker 1: 49:01

Last question about the Cowboys Training camp begins very soon. Does their inactivity or no splash signings or free agents you know, picked up? I mean I know there were some. It's really not a stellar offseason as far as the free agent market. Does that bother you?

Speaker 4: 49:24

Yeah, it does You're talking about there were some. What are you talking about? Bringing Zeke back, I guess. But you know I'm going to training camp next week and I'm going to see it. I'm going to be able to look at this Doing my CBS analyst work right, I got to go and watch it. But the lack of movement. I know you can think that your team is ready, but roster management is very important, particularly when it comes to salaries. You've got three guys that you're going to have to pay and they're going to eat up a ton of your salary cap. So I'm certain one of those guys is going to hold out. I'm going to go with CD Lamb. He's probably not going to be there the first day. I think Dak will be there. But you've got to negotiate that stuff and we should not be in this situation where we got your three top dudes all coming you know their contracts expiring at the same time. It's not good.

Speaker 1: 50:22

No, I'll say a 10-7 season.

Speaker 4: 50:26

Oh man, you're trying to hurt me now. But you're right, dude, the schedule is tough. Right, you got to play the Steelers, the Ravens, you know, the Bengals, I mean, they're outside of their own division. It is a very, very tough schedule to try to go through and I don't know that we've done enough. I don't know if the free agent pickup and Mike Zimmer was enough to fix what was happening on the defense there, because you still need better linebacker play. Now you guys' guy Overshawn. Maybe he comes in and helps us a little bit more there. How he uses Micah is going to be extremely important. He's going to have some healthy corners and defensive backs back there. We're getting Trayvon Diggs back, but he's got some Zimmer I'm talking about. It has a lot of work to do with that defense.

Speaker 5: 51:20

And you're right, Overshawn was doing really well until he got hurt really well.

Speaker 5: 51:25

So that could be a really big piece for the Cowboys' defense. But I'm a little more optimistic than you guys, man. I think that they do well better than 10 and 7, because there's something to be said about sticking with the nucleus that you have and continue to gel and grow with what you have already. But it is a business and you do need to make some adjustments. But I think you can make some roster adjustments in the offseason. But I think that they've done enough. I think that they'll be better than 10-7.

Speaker 1: 52:00

I hope you're right. I hope you're right.

Speaker 4: 52:02

Me too. I'll call you, I'll send you some water, cigar, beer, bourbon, whatever you want. If you're right, you know we can get the letters.

Speaker 5: 52:11

If you find some Eagle Rares, send it to my house, that's all.

Speaker 1: 52:16

All right, hey, this is. I don't know how to make this segue, but this is where the end is near for this episode. But this is where the humor, the humor starts. You ever thought about who would Willie smoke with? He was recently asked that. And Willie, hanging on, I mean he looks good, looks good for his age. Here's a few people he would smoke with. Who would you want?

Speaker 3: 52:38

to light up with. I'll give you the person's picture. You tell me yes or no.

Speaker 1: 52:43

Yes.

Speaker 3: 52:44

Yes, yeah, putin, blatterful and Putin, I know him well. Do you think he might actually help international relations If he calmed down a little bit? I know several people that I'd like to see take a hit.

Speaker 6: 53:01

So to speak. Oh yeah, he needs one bad. That could be good for him. Yeah, I think he may have already been there a time or two.

Speaker 5: 53:19

That's good stuff.

Speaker 1: 53:20

Oh my God, I heard a story.

Speaker 5: 53:24

Snoop Dogg gave us a story of him smoking with Willie Nelson man. He said that Willie Nelson passed him the joint and he was hitting it. And as he had finished out, when he passed him another, I was like Willie, where are you getting all these joints from? So if you can smoke Snoop Dogg under the table, man, you're doing something big you saw, stevie, you held it a certain way and you look very very good.

Speaker 4: 53:49

He's got that technique over there. You know what I'm saying. That's the fundamentals of hand placement, those defensive lines.

Speaker 5: 53:56

I am not under the foot of the NCAA, the Big 12, and Coach Brown anymore. Man, I can do whatever I want. I'm a grown-ass man.

Speaker 4: 54:03

I'm disappointed that y'all didn't sneak in to this segment. Ricky Williams, I can really not smoke with Ricky Williams. How can Willie Nelson not smoke with Ricky Williams?

Speaker 5: 54:11

Come on, that's a great question. Ricky lived here for years and Willie Nelson lived down the street. I'm sure they smoked a time or two. They're probably smoking together right now.

Speaker 1: 54:23

We're technically in the South, kind of this is TikTok in the man cave. I'll be curious to what you call these things we see at the grocery store. Here's a question what do y'all call these? Don't you say it? Do it, say it. Tell them what they are.

Speaker 5: 54:42

Because a lot of people around here, myself included we call them buggies.

Speaker 1: 54:46

Yeah, a buggy, god damn it.

Speaker 3: 54:50

Or a buggy, if it's just one.

Speaker 2: 54:53

Stop calling them f***ing buggies.

Speaker 4: 54:56

It's a f***ing shopping cart.

Speaker 2: 54:58

Maybe where you're from they're shopping carts but where I'm from, they're buggies.

Speaker 1: 55:01

Those are buggies, respectfully, of course, sensational.

Speaker 4: 55:09

Ain't that how he does it? I think that's how he does it.

Speaker 5: 55:13

That's my guy. He's good on TikTok man.

Speaker 1: 55:18

Tig what flows out of your mouth easily. When you refer to those at the grocery store.

Speaker 4: 55:23

I never, ever call them shopping carts. There's too much stuff going on here, man.

Speaker 3: 55:32

They're buggies, or get one of those.

Speaker 4: 55:36

You know, go get that shopping cart. Who in the world says shopping cart right? I really think of buggies as the smaller ones, the ones that the little kids you know. I kind of look at that. Hey, that's a buggy. You the one I use yeah, yeah, well, you see it that uh sean lee push you around here.

Speaker 5: 55:57

Yeah, let's see when we push you around him yeah, I call them buggies as well, man, my kids made fun of me a long time ago, calling them but dad, why is this a buggy? I think it's a buggy. That's what it is calling them.

Speaker 4: 56:11

But dad, why is this a buggy? I think it's a buggy.

Speaker 5: 56:13

That's what it is hey, man tell me something good.

Speaker 1: 56:22

We'll start with you, Stevie. A lot going on, but so many things to be grateful for and prideful about Positivity, what you got, Stevie, Tell me something good brother.

Speaker 5: 56:34

Man, you know, in this time, this is a weird time in sports right now, man. I mean, even though the WNBA is a whole lot better now, it's fun to watch, but there's no football, there's no basketball going on, so it's kind of like dead period right now. What I am really, really excited about and I do not work for NBC, I should is the Olympics this weekend. Opening ceremonies start, I think, on Thursday or Friday, and I'm really, really looking forward. There's a ton of Longhorns that are competing in the Olympics and when it comes to track and field, when it comes to swimming, diving no gymnastics, but we got plenty of people from the University of Texas in the Olympics representing our country.

Speaker 5: 57:22

We all need to be united right now, and this is a small way of uniting this very, very divided country right now. So I'm really looking forward to to chanting USA. I see that flag up there on your on your wall, george, and you know it's a very. It's an election year. It's a volatile time. You know what happened with former President Trump the other day with taking a shot. We don't need that in this country. What we do need is unity, and I always thought sports is our great equaling level playing field and hopefully we can take these three weeks and unite as a country and root for the same country the red, white and blue for a little bit, and then we'll get back to political discourse. That's something good, man. I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 1: 58:18

I cannot believe I didn't mention this earlier. So for you guys thinking George T Cowboys yes, he was the guy who lit up Terrell Owens, who was disrespecting the star at Old Texas Stadium. That's your guy, right there. That's him GT man, I always love your perspective, Positivity inspiring. Tell me something good, brother.

Speaker 4: 58:44

It's funny how things work when you're kind of, uh, I'm gonna say, connected to someone because I need to. What I was going to be talking about is similar to what uh stevie was talking about, because you still. Something good is that you still get to make up your mind and you, you know, make your own decisions, right? We live in a country where we're allowed to have freedom of thought and things of that nature, and sometimes so, like me, I get to travel and I get to go places. A lot of people don't have the same things that we have here and you take those for granted, right? And so, yeah, you don't need to be too far one way or the other with that, but we should be able to. Don't need to be too far one way or the other with that, but we should be able to study, analyze, listen to people, other people's perspective, and then come up with a decision on how we need to react to, to something or to people in our profession, as as football players or as analysts and things of that nature. Man, you have to hear all sides of everything. That is a great thing. That is something very, very good, because a lot of people will just pump one thing into you and that's all you get. So I think it's great that we can formulate our own opinions, have our own thoughts and try to be rational when it comes to understanding that we all didn't grow up the same.

Speaker 4: 1:00:06

He likes orange, burnt orange, I like crimson. That don't mean we got to hate each other. We got to be able to have some type of discussion and maybe we come to a middle ground and say, well, you know what? Yeah, secondary is not very good. I agree with both of you, or something of that nature. So I appreciate you guys for this time you let me come on 100% and I'll extension of that.

Speaker 1: 1:00:33

You know, value everyone's opinions, open up, quit. You know, the reason why we're so divisive is because we don't want to listen. We don't want to listen to other people who have different opinions from us and I think, always think, sports is a perfect example of how people can come together. It's it's, it's totally anti the American trend right now. I think I love the way sports because we have Crimson, tide, aggies, razorbacks, longhorns, you name it. There's divisions, but we all love what we, what we are fans of it. There's divisions, but we all love what we are fans of. There's no doubt. And GT man, I love your work, love that you came on. I hope we can do it again, for sure.

Speaker 4: 1:01:19

Absolutely, man. It's going to be fun. You got my phone number.

Speaker 1: 1:01:26

Hey, he just had a grandbaby turn two years old. I still can't get over the fact you're a grandparent.

Speaker 4: 1:01:34

Yeah, yeah, me too, and I think it's a blessing and that's another good thing that I actually I'm 53. I got a two-year-old grandson. People say, well, you're a young granddad. But it's actually really good because all my limbs still work, I can pick them up, I can toss them around a little bit, I can have all these fun times instead of pushing my cane and can't even do that. So this is a blessing, it really is.

Speaker 5: 1:01:59

That's a huge blessing, man Enjoy that baby man Congrats. That's awesome.

Speaker 4: 1:02:04

Thank you, thank you guys very much.

Speaker 1: 1:02:06

Absolutely. Thank you and congrats to your family.

Speaker 6: 1:02:10

How do y'all?

Speaker 1: 1:02:12

Three words that you guys say in Alabama. Y'all yell it. How does it go?

Speaker 4: 1:02:17

Roll time. Roll baby, let's go.

Speaker 5: 1:02:26

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1: 1:02:27

Oh, my God, that's my welcome to the SEC right there, man that is indoctrination right there. Hey, for the George Teague and his wonderful family, and go follow him Teague's takes and follow him along for this season, because you'll have a much better, different perspective For George Teague, stevie Lee and his beautiful family and the OG man Cave Boys, that being Harbaugh Hards, big Mike and the Coach Mo. What do we tell them, stevie Lee? We?

Speaker 5: 1:02:55

out.