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Ep 393: Camp #HookEm Football with Danny Davis & Travis Feldman; Texas Longhorns’ 2024 Preview, College Football Facilities, and Olympic Triumphs

Shawn Clynch, Mike Murphy, Michael Hardge, & Maurice Harris Season 1 Episode 393

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Curious about the Texas Longhorns' journey after their nail-biting CFP loss to Washington? Tune in as we reflect on that pivotal moment in the Sugar Bowl and how it continues to drive the team toward greatness. We sit down with Tyler Feldman, a familiar face from Austin's local media, who joins us for a hilarious chat about '90s interior design and our shared love for baseball shirts and must-visit civil rights museums. Then, we turn our attention to the Longhorns' 2024 season and their much-anticipated move to the SEC, dissecting their potential to top the national rankings or at least secure a spot in the top 25.

Ever wondered how college football facilities stack up against those in the NFL? We dive into a detailed comparison, spotlighting the cutting-edge amenities at Texas A&M that give student-athletes a serious edge. Shifting gears, we analyze the Longhorns' defensive outlook, especially after losing stars like T'vondre Sweat and Byron Murphy. With insights from David Gbenda and a deep dive into Pete Kwiatkowski's defensive strategies, we explore how the team plans to maintain its competitive edge this season.

Finally, we welcome former Texas Longhorns defensive tackle Stevie Lee for a motivational segment that's sure to inspire. We also tackle the media clashes involving Deion Sanders, scrutinizing his behavior at Jackson State and his current role at Colorado. As we wrap up, we celebrate the incredible achievements of athletes with ties to Austin and Penn State at the recent Olympics, honoring their hard-earned medals and sharing some memorable moments. Plus, we give a shoutout to our fellow media professionals, including an appreciation for Mike Finger's social media prowess and Danny Davis's stellar journalism. Join us for an episode packed with insights, laughs, and inspiration!

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Speaker 1:

it was really, uh, rough.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's just a feeling I honestly don't like to talk about, because I mean we came up short and then um, and I mean that's obviously never to go, but I mean that's what obviously fills the hunger, and um gets you ready to come back and compete for another one as you would imagine, that loss the narrow cfp loss and the program's first ever appearance in the CFP to Washington in the Sugar Bowl, remains a bitter taste, if you will, and I'm pretty sure that's all the motivation the Longhorns need as they enter this 2024 season and their first ever season in the SEC. We continue our series, our installments of camp hashtag hook'em football, and we have a new face tonight, but you probably remember him. He's recently removed himself or stepped down from the local media in Austin, texas, and we will soon have four faces. Scheduling, family obligations, everything it's part of life. But the next installment of camp hashtag hook them football is up next. Let's rock. Oh, I love that anytime.

Speaker 2:

Uh, tyler feld joins the show. We have to be very dramatic, and I have to before we go any further. The most important, aesthetically pleasing piece of this episode has got to be the 1992 interior design that both Danny and Tyler have chosen for their living space. Good, open floor plan, I like it. Gentlemen, I mean, did you guys collaborate Well? What's going on?

Speaker 4:

here. Well, I don't know if you've seen Curb your Enthusiasm, but Larry David once used an interior design person lady and Danny and I, I guess, happened to use the same one. It's a pretty grand interior design. You see the grand piano. Danny, I had no idea we used the same lady, but this is awesome. Your place looks great. The stone fireplace signed me up.

Speaker 5:

I'd seen a couple of the hard to show and I was like, who set up your place? And they came over and I don't know why clinch is hating on this grand piano life, because I think me and Tyler are living at large right now.

Speaker 4:

I don't think I won't go back there and play a little something-something. During this podcast, danny and I are also sporting baseball shirts, so Clinch, get with the program.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm falling behind. I went with the blue alligator, the Lacoste, and that makes me sound like I'm fancy and have good taste, but clearly I don't. And I told Danny before my love for museums. The Negro Leagues Museum in Kansas City must visit, but I've not been yet. Must visit, but I've not been yet Not been.

Speaker 4:

I'm just being honest, what an approval rating there. Must visit but I haven't been it's been on my top five.

Speaker 2:

The advertisements Sounds like a good time but I'm not going. That's exactly right. But I highly recommend too the civil rights museums in Birmingham and in Memphis Must visits, by the way, I've been to the one in Memphis twice. Emotional, that's all I can say. It's good stuff.

Speaker 2:

Hey, before we move forward, before I move on with these two esteemed gentlemen, go ahead and follow all of our social media platforms. It takes a half an hour to get through all of the social media platforms these days and show some love to these. And I'm not even pointing to them because it's outside of my Brady Bunch square. But Jim Saxton State Farm, longhorn Legacy. His dad was a Heisman finalist back in the day for the Longhorns. He's been insuring Austin for several decades.

Speaker 2:

Hargrove Roofing know who's on your roof and you know everyone loves good carbs and shakes Dirty. Martin's place the saloon. Hey, just say no to Project Connect if you want it to stay there in that location and honest plumbing and air where a handshake still means something. Danny Davis is the only one who's legit media still and I know he has great stories. But I have to give a shout out to Tyler Feldman for working for the channel of champions, in which I devoted a good portion of the latter portion of my life. You've been, you've got out of the business. Sum up your traveling adventure.

Speaker 4:

Got out of the business is a broad sense. I'm still in the business. Look what I'm doing tonight. I mean I left KVU so I could do this regularly. He's actually been on KVU more in the last month than I have, so that's saying something.

Speaker 2:

Well, you're still extremely talented and your journey is not over. You just temporarily took a step back.

Speaker 4:

I retired at 31, which everyone will be able to read that how I was able to do that in my memoir when it gets published in about a decade.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'll tell you that I'm looking forward to that book and Danny and I will promote it. I know that Danny is still in it. We just follow his lead and I guess the first topic is first of all, we'll start with Danny. What is the basement and ceiling of this Longhorn team right now?

Speaker 5:

I mean the ceiling is a national champion. I mean I think that's obvious. You're a top five team in the preseason poll. I think we can all do the math there. The basement, I mean I think they're probably a top 25 team regardless of what happens, unless something disastrous happens. But at this point, with all the hype going into the season, being the number 25 team in the country isn't good enough. That'd be considered a disaster among these fans. So I don't think it's a 2010-like basement for this team. They went 5-7, and Garrett couldn't get it done and it was just a complete disaster. But if they slip and lose to Georgia, lose to Oklahoma, lose to Michigan, maybe drop that A&M game, there aren't going to be a lot of happy people in Austin. Regardless of what bowl game this team ends up in, if they finish the season in the top 25, the ceiling is what everyone's going for here.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, tyler. Regardless of what your status is right now, you're deeply connected to this program. You did a lot of good work covering the Longhorns and you still have the pulse of this team. I mean, obviously, I know that was a pretty obvious question on my part, probably.

Speaker 4:

The ceiling.

Speaker 4:

To me what's the least amount of wins this Texas team could possibly end up with? That's an interesting question. That's a better question. I think six Is six as low as you'd go. I don't see them winning less than eight games. Okay. But as Danny said, the ceiling's a national championship.

Speaker 4:

You look at the pieces coming back. People haven't talked enough about the offensive line. I think that's going to be a huge strength First season in the SEC. All those guys coming back, the size, the experience with Quinn and the way in which Quinn has handled everything this offseason. It seems like he's just in that laser-focused mindset and that has to permeate throughout the team. I guess you could see this Texas team winning only six games if you're crazy, but I don't think there's any way they win less than eight. They should win way more than eight and compete for a national championship. But if the team stays healthy, right, Running back, CJ's out already and devastating, but you got guys behind him. But as long as the team stays healthy, I don't see why this team shouldn't compete for a national championship.

Speaker 2:

Baron Sorrell, the great defensive end, just looks great in 88. It's perfect for him. He talks about how to become a national champion, it's not just proclaiming it. He talks about how to become a national champion. It's not just proclaiming it. This is what becoming a national champion, or how to in his opinion.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you don't just wake up one day and say you're hungry for it. You got to prove it every single day. I mean, there's only one team out of the whole country that is going to be able to stand up on that stage at the end of the year. And it takes every day to find things to get better at being attentive in meetings, being attentive in practice and just using those things to fill that hunger so that you can be a national champion at the end of the year and see Danny to be great and award-winning journalist.

Speaker 2:

You've got to be great every day, am I wrong?

Speaker 5:

I wouldn't know. I'm not an award-winning journalist.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you should be. I would nominate you. What? That is virtually nonsense, Heck even I have an award.

Speaker 5:

I have. I got to talk to my bosses about why they never submit my stuff for award season, but that's another conversation for another day. But I'm not sure what the question was, but go ahead the habits.

Speaker 2:

You know, we've all heard it for several years and Danny, you and I, both decades, and Tyler, you've heard it Everyone says our goal is to win a championship. But you know, when people say that, you don't want to say it to burst anybody's bubble, but you know that team doesn't have a chance. But this Texas team truly does. But from being around the group, Danny, do you see that? Do you see that they practice like they take every rep as serious to become better, every practice, so to speak.

Speaker 5:

Sure, I mean the 20-minute windows that we did. You really missed those coming out to those? Oh horrible. You would expect that kind of an answer and that kind of response from Barron. He is a veteran defensive lineman. This is his last shot.

Speaker 5:

I kind of think at this point with what NIL is and what college football is.

Speaker 5:

I mean this is a job and these are young men who are figuring out how to do their jobs, and whether you're at Texas or Montana or Stephen F Austin or Penn State, I mean you kind of it is what it is.

Speaker 5:

I mean you're expected to be a professional and act like a professional, and that means you know busting your butt in every practice, making the most of all your opportunities and if you don't, if you see one of your teammates or you know someone else slacking, to get on their case to make sure everyone's on the right page. And I don't think Texas is any different than most other schools across the country, especially during fall camp. I doubt if you went down to Texas State they're just all slacking and not doing anything during practice. But Texas also has the talent, and so you combine the talent with the work ethic and that'll get you on the right path to a championship. But I'm not surprised to hear during the second week of August that you know they're having good practices and they're giving it their all. We'll see what that means in a couple weeks, that's right, tyler, this is old hat for you too.

Speaker 2:

You've heard it, you've been down that road before.

Speaker 4:

But it is a little different this year. Sure, I mean, at this point in the season, I think getting too far ahead of yourself is something you should not do. It's still early preseason season hasn't even kicked off yet but, as Danny alluded to, this really is a job, and it's a job for 18 to 21 year olds, some older than 21 and I think that pressure is what's going to be one of the biggest keys to this Texas football team the success, uh, with Steve skeesian in charges. How do they handle the pressure of coming back as a team that will have that target on their back, not just because they're Texas, not just because it's their first season in the SEC, but also because they played in a college football playoff semifinal last year? So you add all those things up and it's how do you handle the pressure, the talent?

Speaker 4:

I'm not worried about Staying healthy. I'm always going to be somewhat worried about when it comes to a college football team, any football team, a high school football team, an NFL team. It's a long season and staying healthy is always a big key, especially for certain players in particular, but it's the pressure of all those areas that I just mentioned that will be the biggest key for this Texas football team and we don't really get to see Danny in those 20-minute windows. Back when I was there at practice, you don't really see the inside football of those battles. Really, in my three years covering the Longhorns I never saw one argument disagreement in a practice setting.

Speaker 4:

It just was something that maybe was communicated hey, during this window we're not doing this but it also was pretty much them just stretching and throwing the football 50 yards. So from that perspective, what the media is able to see is not really conducive to you know, figuring out what this team will be.

Speaker 2:

Tyler, I said last episode I you know I have seen many, many years, and especially in Norman and in Austin, championship-level calisthenics. I've had a collection of video of great hamstrings that could have made a run to the BCS and the CFP.

Speaker 4:

Hey, my argument there is don't sleep on those calisthenics. Those players better be warming up and getting their bodies right before they pack themselves because you do not want. I mean CJ, cj, baxter, danny, maybe you can talk more on this, but the way in which he got injured was it freak, what? What was the scenario? But again, going through those motions critical, we laugh about it, but let's not skip the easy stuff. That's what championship teams do, right?

Speaker 5:

Yes, stretching, stretching is very important. That's a lesson we all learned when we were, you know, in elementary school, grade school, and I mean there's a reason. I mean tori beckton gets paid a lot of money, um, you know, and he's maybe the hardest working coach on that, on that staff, you know, strength coach and that entire team that they have over there. I mean they're you know, that sports science team over at texas for all the sports is no, no joke, because that, that is obviously an important thing. It's also, at the same time, though, you're a media member and you get 20 minutes to watch practice. That's like the last thing you want to see, like have the guys do their stretches, uh, beforehand, and get that all out out of the way before we, we come in there, and then you can just throw on air for five minutes before you kick us out. But I don't think I'm gaining anything by watching the Quinn do some leg kicks, regardless of how it may or may not be.

Speaker 4:

A few weeks ago I got a tour of Texas A&M's facilities Unbelievable, I mean the room and space they have up there obviously a lot bigger and more spacious than UT in the 40 acres, but their weight room. They have technology now that basically tracks how much force the facilities that Texas A&M has and that they're building even more stuff out there in College Station. Texas is obviously going to come through with that new practice facility on campus next to DKR. But these college athletes, now professionals, have all the technology and stuff in the world to really improve their game.

Speaker 2:

It's just important to take care of your body in doing so and notable a lot of the, the guys, the one percenters who go to the nfl. They will have experienced better facilities and better dining in college than they will in the nfl at some of these programs like that. And that's because there's an arms race there.

Speaker 4:

There's an arms race in college athletics that is not present in the NFL. The NFL is like you're welcome, you get to play for us. College is like hey, we want you to come to our school. I mean it's two very different dynamics. But Texas, a&m, texas, a lot of these major D1 programs, yeah, have way better facilities. I think we saw that with Xavier Worthy when he was in Kansas City facilities. I think we saw that with Xavier Worthy when he was in Kansas City.

Speaker 2:

He posted a tweet a picture from one of the locker rooms that they have there and it didn't look great at all. No, that's because we're all I will say. We're all entitled to an extent. So last episode, tyler, while you were traveling, seeing family and just living your best life, we got to the subject of the yards per carry that Texas allowed last year 2.9 yards and Danny made a good statement. He said there's no way that that's going to happen again with the loss of Tavondre Sweat and Byron Murphy and we saw Byron Murphy's already disrupting NFL offensive lines in preseason. But David Benda made a had a good quote, a good soundbite on how the defense will be different. But I'll be really curious to what both of you have to say of how this defense will truly look different but be productive.

Speaker 6:

Let's say we're going to be more attacking. I mean, obviously last year we were pretty good but we're trying to double the production because, to go to the national championship, defense wins championships. I heard that age-old saying, but it is true. So we're trying to sort of embody that Defense wins championships. I heard that age-old saying, but it is true. So we're trying to sort of embody that and double the production we had last year.

Speaker 2:

Danny, first off has Bender the best interview on the team.

Speaker 5:

I mean to define best. I mean he's a good talker, he'll give you good quotes, but you know, if I want to laugh, you know bring Jaday in there, if I want a good story. There's a couple other guys who are good. I mean David's pretty straightforward and, you know, really thinks about his answers and gives you good quotes. But I mean, you know I'm also in the news business and every once in a while I like a little spicy quote and I think David Bender has ever given us a sound clip that is going to be bulletin board material or get those clicks or get those eyes on TV. So I mean it's probably your definition of what best is.

Speaker 4:

And let me just say there's nothing wrong with just being right down the middle. We live in this world where everyone wants the clicks that's what everyone wants but there's nothing wrong with just giving a nice, solid answer. David Benda, I believe, wants to be an analyst. I remember having some conversations last season where he has it, he's got it and I think you can tell when he's answering. He's trying to elevate each time and I've seen a lot of growth in how he's handled the media since first interviewing him a couple years ago.

Speaker 2:

So his answer about being a more attacking defense, pete Kwiatkowski, the defensive coordinator, he's shown he can dial up some, you know, obviously, mixed zone coverages, zone blitzes, whatnot exotics, danny, you go first. When he says attacking, what is that?

Speaker 5:

What do you envision? We'll find out. I mean, steve was kind of asked the same question today and he kind of didn't give a full endorsement to david's statement. So you kind of like to be able to do both, both attack more and also, um, do what they did last year and you know cause, uh, enough problems with your front four, I mean. But I think david, being a linebacker, probably wants to crash a little more and get some of those sacks and get some of those highlight reel plays in the backfield. So if PK's dialing up some more blitzes or they're working on some of that stuff, I'm sure he's salivating in practice. But we're going to find out early. We're going to find out with this personnel that they have. I'm sure Texas would love if they can disrupt with four to go with four. But I think they're probably going to have to mix in some more blitzing because they don't have those guys clogging the middle anymore, and we'll just find out.

Speaker 2:

How about you, tyler? When you hear attacking and you saw enough of their rotation, even without Murphy and T-Sweat, I mean they obviously brought in some guys from the portal from Arizona when you hear attacking with the personnel that you're familiar with, what do you see?

Speaker 4:

I really believe that not having Murph, not having Sweat Jalen Ford now out of the picture, actually gives Texas defensively a little bit of an advantage of. I feel like a lot of teams will overlook or think that they have an advantage over the UT defense because those three guys are out of the picture Now on paper, there's a lot to prove for this Longhorn defense, but I also think that having to prove something will benefit PK's defense, especially early in the season, than going into SEC play, because these are guys that are hungry to make their mark, to prove something, and that's what they're going to need, because the offense for me, even with CJ Baxter being out for the season, weapons galore. I can't wait to watch this Texas offense. The Texas defense I'm excited about too, but they have a lot more to prove, especially that secondary. When I hear attacking, I hear a team that wants to be aggressive and show that they're here to play. That's what I hear when I hear Ben to say that.

Speaker 2:

I can see it, and I can see it because you both painted the picture for me, because you both painted the picture for me. So I mean, I think, danny, in last episode too, we talked about how you know they're trying to improve that pass defense, and so you know it may be more balanced, like Tyler said, to get the free opportunity, the free pass rush lanes, and they may be a more aggressive defense that way. Now, something off the field that I really didn't pay much attention to, and I think we can all agree that college football at this level is becoming more and more like a mirror image of the NFL. I mean amateurism, we can laugh about it now, nil, it's great, I'm all for it, but now you've got the mandatory injury reports Like the Big Ten. Does it the SEC? And correct me if I'm wrong is it going to be implemented or is that still up for debate?

Speaker 5:

I think the CBS reported last week that it's going to happen by the beginning of the season but it's not fully rubber stamped. But the feeling is it will be something that happens this season.

Speaker 2:

I just wasn't sure, because I really didn't. I don't know why. I just didn't think it was going to happen. But, Tyler, I mean the NFL is doing it. They've done it forever. Tyler, I mean the NFL's doing it, They've done it forever. And help me understand. Is it the week of, or what are they trying to do?

Speaker 4:

Is it by midweek or game day? Maybe that's a better question for Danny, because in my experience covering college football ECU Pirates back in the day, texas Longhorns I mean trying to get an injury update out of Steve Sarkisian earlier in the week.

Speaker 4:

Someone has to ask that question. It was never me, but someone had to ask if someone was healthy or not. And you may get something, you may not. But look, the reality is, if they're going to mandate it, and that's going to happen, then that's the reality of college football. You said it. It's no longer amateurism, they're protecting the kids. But to a certain degree I'm indifferent. It doesn't change. You go play the game on Saturday, you game plan. If you're worried about that, you're worrying about the wrong things, unless you have money on the game, and then you obviously care about those, those reports.

Speaker 2:

That's funny. You said that because Sark he commented on that, because you know he's been experienced with the NFL game, and then he he addressed that piece.

Speaker 7:

And whether that's for the opponent, whether that's because now we don't have to worry about leaks out of our building and as it pertains to this new idea of online gambling and all the stuff that's going on out there, like, hey, this is where we're at, here's who's out, here's who's questionable, here's who's probable, and we go from there and again, if you don't do it the right way, then fine us. You know, then, that's on us as coaches that we're not disclosing what needs to be disclosed.

Speaker 2:

So nothing in the bud. I don't have any. It's not, unlike Tyler Danny. It's not going to affect me in any way, shape or form, unless I've got 10 grand and going with the over for a Texas game.

Speaker 5:

I mean sure, agreed. I mean it's. There are a million things to worry about during the week. I guess it'll be nice to have a little clarity on some of the things. Maybe we can spend our time asking questions, other questions, as media, but this is a. This is for the gamblers. This is this isn't for us. This is for, obviously, online gambling and gambling's taking over now and obviously a huge part of the sports landscape, and that's pumping a lot of money into your atmosphere, especially in this nil world, and the athletes about being about to get start getting paid by the schools.

Speaker 5:

I mean, you have to be honest and have, you know, some good faith. You know efforts towards, you know who's going to play and who's not going to play, and I'm sure some of the coaches are probably grimacing a little bit, but if everyone's playing the same, the same game, it is what it is. I mean, I'm also the belief that opposing coaches get paid a lot of money too, and they're not dumb and you know they have sources at schools and they can see film and all that stuff, and I'm sure they are just as aware about opposing injuries as a lot more than the media and they're also smart enough to have backup plans in case you know Quinn, for example. You know if he was questionable, you know if he comes out in shorts. I'm sure the opposing team has game plan for Arch as well. So I don't think it's that that huge of a deal, but it will give me one less thing to worry about on a Monday press conference.

Speaker 2:

Just to add some clarity. I'm never going to make a $10,000 wager on anybody over under Texas SF Montana. It's not going to happen. I just wanted to clear that up. I don't want any rumors started that this is dropping money on Saturdays. There's some bookie in Austin, texas, hey, thanks for clarifying.

Speaker 4:

If you need help, I'm here for your buddy. If you want to pay us a $10,000 wager.

Speaker 2:

Hey, you guys know my Venmo, I think so. If I need some assistance for a wager, I know where to go. You guys are reliable humans. Just a big reminder a week from Wednesday, the 21st. We've only done two live shows in the history of this podcast since the COVID lockdown. We're going to do one from Boulevard Bar and Grill, short, it's called the Bully Far West Boulevard. We're going to have a 90-minute show, three segments Longhorn and college football, then Austin area high school football and then the last Cowboys and Texans. The Cowboys, truly America's team. It's starting to fade and then we'll have the guests.

Speaker 2:

We had a little sightseeing today to try to plan it out and get there. The beverages are very tasty and cold and they have some of the best bar food in the ATX Metro. So come join us, get there early, get your seats. Space is limited but it's a great place, the Boulevard Far West Bar and Grill and hopefully, hopefully, I get to see these two gentlemen there. Of course, danny does have a son. I don't know if that would be something. He wants to expose his son to this early, but he does. We're going to take a quick break and we get to see our pal Stevie Lee, act a little bit when we come back. I got to get your take on Deion ripping into a media brethren of ours that's coming up on the other side of this break.

Speaker 3:

Here at Hardcore Roofing we try to think outside the box to kind of get the creative juices flowing. So I brought in my friend Stevie Lee, former defensive tackle for the Texas Longhorns. He's going to help the team strategize, really motivate them. Light a fire.

Speaker 1:

This guy's going to help the team strategize, really motivate them. Light a fire. This guy's going to block down. This guy's going to block down. You put your butt into the guard and that way my Mike linebacker gets free to do what.

Speaker 3:

Not only are they going to learn a thing or two, but they're going to also leave with a great attitude and a bunch of smiles on their faces.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry. What does this have to do with roofing exactly?

Speaker 6:

Get out Right now.

Speaker 1:

I said get out.

Speaker 3:

For me, that's what it's all about. It's just having fun, making our employees have a great time. Hargrove Roofing Know who's on your roof? Eric Christensen with CBS Sports Colorado.

Speaker 6:

I'm not doing nothing with CBS Next question.

Speaker 2:

Joe Rego, my.

Speaker 6:

It's above that. I ain't got nothing to do with you. I got love for you. I appreciate and respect you. I ain't got nothing to do with you. It's above that. I got none to do with you. I got love for you. I appreciate and respect you. I got none to do with you. They know what they did. I'm here at Denver, not National. You are who you are. Cbs is CBS, all right.

Speaker 2:

All right, gentlemen, I have my own opinion. Start around the corner up top next to me in the Brady Bunch family boxes. Danny, what was your first reaction to that? And then, having done some reading or research into it, what are your thoughts on it now?

Speaker 5:

Hey, this is Dion's act and this isn't anything new. I mean, he was pulling this nonsense when he was at Jackson jackson state and you know reporters were calling him dion and not calling him coach, or calling him coach prime or something like that, and expecting these you know adults to refer to him as coach, like he's their high school coach or some nonsense like that, and refusing to answer questions if he didn't do that. And being sensitive because there's some loose affiliation between the local Denver TV station, which, by the way, pays him to do a coaching coaching show, and CBS National, which, whatever story they're upset about, whether it's their coaching list, which is just probably someone on their National desk just looking for stir the pot on a random wednesday, or some reporting into some of this stuff about his son, which is all open record in facts, um, and him equivocating the two. Or you know he got into an exchange with the denver post reporter who he doesn't like and has written some mean things about. I mean, dion just has been skinned and I think he expects everyone to, you know, worship him like he's a. He's a dallas cowboy, um, again, and this is the 90s, instead of him being the coach of, uh, whatever, they were four and eight team last year that missed a bowl game. And you know he should probably focus a little bit more on doing his job than picking on the media.

Speaker 5:

Because, let's face it, this is not, uh, not saying that austin's full of a bunch of woodwards and Bernsteins, but the Colorado Buffaloes media core is pretty welcoming of Deion and I don't think he gets thrown too many hard fastballs or that many people are ripping him in columns the next day. I mean he kind of gets to walk on water, in part because of some of the attention he's brought to that program and how he's rejuvenated that program. But it's okay for the Denver Post to write a couple of mean things about you, deion. You'll be fine, just go do your job, because if you go four and eight again, there are going to be some a lot more mean things going to be said about you and you're going to. Just you know not hold press conferences anymore.

Speaker 4:

I agree, tyler. Uh, you feel differently. I mean, I think we're, honestly, we all feel the same, pretty much the same. It it's an old act. Yeah, it's very much what media consumption has become now. Where I saw that I didn't even watch it. It just it's not something I care to consume.

Speaker 4:

I think Deion has walked on water in his eyes his entire life, beck and call. No matter the situation. Nothing that he has done as a father, as a coach, as a player, has ever been wrong. No one's ever tried to correct him. If they have, they were the one who was in the wrong. And for me it's an insecurity as a coach when you go that route, when it's just so unnecessary and you don't want to take the time to understand how CBS National is different from CBS Local, when you just want to push that to the side and say no, it's not right in my eyes. I don't want to take the time to understand it. I no longer give it the time and the irony is I'm giving it the time right now to discuss it with you two when I didn't even take the time to watch it because it's an old act. It's a major insecurity.

Speaker 4:

Danny said thin skin, if that's what you want to call it as well. But that program has several other significant problems that they have to work through and I think Deion's smart enough where he is navigating this in a way where he always wants to be the topic of conversation. It's not about his team, it's about Deion. Name four players outside the top two on that team. You probably can't, I can't, because it's always about Deion and to his credit Danny mentioned it he has kind of brought back Colorado, that program, from no man's land. However, there's no reason to treat someone like that and in a press conference situation, it's whether you agree with that person or not, whether you have something to bone to pick with that person or not. In those settings, the way to approach is just out of respect. You don't have to get defensive and if you want to, it goes back to that insecurity You're you're covering up other things with those actions.

Speaker 2:

Agreed and there's not much else I can say, but I will say this he has learned from Jerry Jones and I liken this to Mike Gundy to the 2007. I'm a man on 40 rant. I feel like Gundy felt that way, but he also I feel like Gundy felt that way, but he also, as Dion did this saw this as an opportunity to continue to put Colorado in the daily news cycle on a much bigger scale. He saw this as an opportunity, but he was offended. I couldn't remember if it was about an article that was done about his son or the fact that CBS Digital Space listed him. They had the list of the top 14, you know, 1 through 14, the coaches, best coaches in the Big 12. He was number 13 above Arizona State, and that's what I thought that he got a little offended by.

Speaker 4:

But they make those lists all the time. If you're consumed with that, you're consumed with the wrong things. To take something like that personally.

Speaker 5:

It's not the fact that CBS National and CBS Local.

Speaker 5:

You're treating a local reporter like that who, by all you're saying, you respect and you love and you don't have a problem with him.

Speaker 5:

It would not be connected for that to be the line that you draw and I don't know. At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is there's probably a lot of people, like you know, the three people on this call that are annoyed by it because we're related to the media and naturally a lot of people are laughing at dion. But I'm sure in boulder those people are probably, you know, rallying around him and the thing that, the thing that does, the thing that does annoy me about and I think Dion needs to be careful about, is, you know, people will follow his word and, you know, rally behind him. And I would hate for that reporter from CBS to be a casualty of angry people on social media or angry Colorado fans because Deion decided to put this hit on him for something he didn't do. I think sometimes coaches and these people, who are revered by a lot of people, need to also take that into account too.

Speaker 4:

And, um, you know, this guy's guy kind of putting the crossfire for no reason, aside from cbs being in his name, that his job title we live in a world currently where the coach, the athlete, the power in those coach positions, in in those player positions, have never been stronger and the relationship thus with the media, in my eyes Clinch, danny, you can correct me has weakened because they don't see the necessity where now the players can go on social media themselves and produce the story that they want to share from their eyes, in which they say it's truthful. Same deal with the coaches. I mean, dion has all the power in the world and it's how he uses that power that unfortunately led to this circumstance.

Speaker 2:

Agreed. You know he needs to focus on getting to ball eligibility and quit worrying about what people win games.

Speaker 5:

Hey Ben, tell me something good. We're taping this on a Monday. The Olympics shut down yesterday and it was a fun two weeks. I really enjoyed the Olympics this year. It was nice.

Speaker 5:

Seeing this is like the two weeks where I'm really patriotic before I go back to complain about a lot of things that are wrong with this country, like many are. So I mean, it was a lot of. I think this was your time. Something good last week, but like I've just I enjoyed it. It was fun watching the track this last week. It was fun watching. I mean, that Steph Curry game on Saturday was absurd and a lot of fun. And this is my.

Speaker 5:

Charlie was like seven months during the Tokyo Olympics, so this was his first time really realizing what was going on and being interested and just watching him try to be a gymnast around our living room or thinking he could become the next you know american hero on the track or in the pool, was this fun. And so I. I enjoyed the olympics. I am not going to care at all in two years for the winter olympics because those just aren't sports I care about or, to be honest, the people who look like me care about. But when LA comes around in four years if I'm not sent there for work. Hopefully I can maybe find a way to get to LA and actually see some events and see the stuff up front, because this was awesome and I enjoyed everything from the opening ceremonies to to um to the controversies.

Speaker 4:

All this stuff was was fun well, I'm looking forward to the winter olympics because people who look like me participate in those games.

Speaker 4:

So I do not fire me up and I'll piggyback off of danny and discuss how great the viewing experience was on peacock with gold zone scott. I mean, it was just. It was just awesome how they were able to cut from four different events highlight and have the broadcasters on. The viewing experience, for the olympics has changed the game moving forward for how I think professional sports leagues, other entities within American sports, international sports, should handle how broadcasting is done and how viewers enjoy the realness of it. Because you still had the primetime events. They would replay events in the evenings, but they also didn't shy away. Nbc didn't shy away from airing the events live as they happened and you know what. It didn't faze me. Maybe I knew what happened, but I didn't see it and I still enjoyed the recorded live events, primetime, as if I was watching it live.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, the Olympics raging success. It was cool to see all the Longhorns, all the Nittany Lions bringing home medals. A lot of local ties here to Austin, here to Texas, and then, of course, I went to Penn State, so I think they had 13 medals. Just very cool to see America crush it. I think KD had the quote of the Olympics, though there's a lot of messed up stuff that happens on the regular, but experiencing this is as good as it gets. That was awesome. I think Mike Finger down in San Antonio posted that on social media.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead and follow Danny Davis and read his great work with the statesman Tyler Feldman. Still the humor, the everything Watch where he lands, because whoever gets him he's going to be an asset for whatever media outlet that he ends up on. Hopefully he doesn't leave Austin, but that would be selfish for me to say that. But for Danny and the Tyler Feldman and the OG man Cave boys that being Harbaugh, Harsh, big Mike and the Coach Mo, we are out.

Speaker 1:

We are out, thank you.