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Stories Inside the Man Cave
Ep 424: The Pass Rush with Stevie Lee: Gators chomped & the hornets nets in Fayetteville awaits the Longhorns on the next stop on the November to remember tour
Get ready to uncover the secrets behind Texas football's outstanding season and what makes their defense a force to be reckoned with. We promise you'll gain insights into standout players like Jaday Barron and the unyielding team spirit that fuels their success. We'll share how the camaraderie and high expectations from Texas fans are transforming the team, with stars like Quinn Ewers and Trey Moore leading the charge. Celebrate with us as we highlight their pivotal win against Florida and discuss the intricacies of SEC play-calling, including a modern twist on the wishbone formation, where precision is king.
Think you know everything about the Texas vs. Arkansas rivalry? Tune in to hear tales from the frontlines of one of college football's most intense matchups, where grit and mental strength are as crucial as athleticism. Join us as we recount the highs and lows of previous clashes, the cultural tension in Fayetteville, and the extraordinary achievements of Texas Tech's Taj Brooks. Our journey through the SEC landscapes continues with shocking upsets, including Ole Miss's unexpected triumph over Georgia and Alabama's dominant display against LSU, sparking conversations about the unpredictable nature of the championship race.
We're not just talking about the on-field drama; we're diving into the controversy of college football officiating, especially in the Big 12. The conversation sheds light on the impact of inconsistent calls, fan behavior, and the fallout from heated games like BYU vs. Utah. Meanwhile, we celebrate stories of resilience and unity, exploring the role of sports in bringing communities together, from the disciplined lifestyle of Army's football team to the excitement surrounding Texas high school football playoffs. Concluding with a reflection on Vice President Harris's concession, we emphasize the need for unity and moving forward with love and appreciation for our collective journey.
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Now, stevie, when that happened. I love that Players having fun. You know that's a good sign that everything's good in the locker room, in the huddle, things getting better, everything's back on track. Of course, in Texas you could win by a point and you think the sky is falling One of those programs. But have you been working on that dance? I challenged you over Instagram yesterday.
Speaker 3:No, I did not work on that dance. I can put one together, though, for him.
Speaker 2:Hell, I may pull a hamstring while we're working on it, trying to practice it. We're going to talk about the horns as they continue this November to remember, and we've got bottles on the field again, people running all over the field and upsets, and we're going to find out who is actually in that top ten of ours which, to be honest with you, stevie, it parallels the college football plan.
Speaker 4:And Paul.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to say we're going to have some fun and we're going to find out what is the biggest story in college football. Who is the biggest story in college football so far? Let's go, man you ready, let's do it, let's ride.
Speaker 3:We'll see you next time. It's opening us up. Jaday Barron for Thorpe. I'm calling it right now.
Speaker 2:Jaday Barron for the Thorpe Award the best DB in the country. Texas has had a few of them. That was Andrew Makuba, the proud of the LBJ High School transfer well by way of Clemson University. He's a big part of that secondary at Texas. But the two 5-1-2 boys there's quite a few of them on this team, but I love that Campaigning for your own secondary teammate.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 2:What's your thoughts? I mean at this point in the season. We're on the final stretch of the regular season. I think. Jaday has done enough to claim his significance, or actually may be the front runner for the Thorpe, would you agree?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I would agree. Yeah, for sure, I haven't seen everybody in in college football, right. So I mean I've been, I've been uh focusing in on uh texas football and a little bit of you know around sec, but now he's playing phenomenal football man he's lights out.
Speaker 2:You know every, every. I didn't go to this game against florida. I had to sit this one out, sold my tickets. But I will say every team that we faced and when I've been in maybe conversations, work-wise, business-wise, who are fans of college football. The first thing that people always say, dave, that's secondary of Texas and that defense is legit Yep, not verbatim, but it's along the same lines and I'm like really Tell me more. You got it. When you hear it from outsiders, or even at the games with the visiting fans, they talk about that Texas defense. Even the Georgia fans who sat around me was like wow, that is an SEC-built type of defense.
Speaker 3:No question, all right, my friend.
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Speaker 2:They hustle for you on the insurance part part. So this was texas. Here's some just key stats. They, they chopped those gators or bevo gored them 49 17. Florida was shorthanded the down to the third string quarterback, um, but texas handled business. They're gonna be the freshman running back you. You never know who's going to lead the way. Everyone's contributing 100 yards rushing. And then you got Quinn Ewers, who we'll talk about a little bit later. I think that's a career-best five touchdowns. And look, trey Moore, who transferred from UTSA. He got some significant reps Not reps, but really showed up on the stats.
Speaker 2:He's been contributing. But look at that. Two tackles for losses.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no defense, and I love what the defense did. I think we did everything we wanted to do, man, except you know we punt. What did we punt Two times this game and we had a missed field goal. Those are just the only negatives that we need to clean up. What did we punt Two times this game and we had a missed field goal. Those are just the only negatives that we need to clean up. But man, dude, it was. I predicted this. I don't know if you remember, I just knew we were going to be on fire against them, we had something to prove and Florida was just the next team in the way.
Speaker 2:You know they came off of a bye week and that is, you know, the good thing about the SEC and I know a lot of other conferences do this. Some of them get two bye weeks. And ask any coach in America, they're going to tell you oh, this is a great time for a bye week. But most coaches don't want bye weeks because they want to keep playing. But the players will be the first to tell you they want a break.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think everybody wanted this to get healed up and get the mind. The mental part is so huge. But you know, when you played for Mack Brown, november is huge it is. You could do all that work. You could have beaten Oklahoma, could have beaten all the teams that you did, but November is in my opinion. I would say every team is dangerous.
Speaker 3:Every team is dangerous. You know, in November we're typically beginning of November we're probably playing like OSU, and OSU, either at home or there, always gave us problems. We always had to come from behind to be OSU, and OSU, either at home or there, always gave us problems. We always had to come from behind to be OSU. November was also Texas Tech is scary playing Texas Tech at night. And then also we had A&M as well in November. So, man it was. It was some tough stretches down in November, man. Whenever I played but you know my senior year we went after the OU game. We went undefeated after that Almost always.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Well, texas had half a thousand yards of offense against Florida, gave up 329. The one that was glaring was Texas gave up 197 yards rushing. I mean, come on, this is still, regardless of Florida's mediocre. They've got dudes and they're an SEC program with history. But I think, more or less when you come off of a bye week and there were some things that Texas, you know, sark and the players had mentioned it last week that even going of a bye week and there was some things that Texas, you know, sark and players and mentioned it last week that even going into the bye week, what they wanted to accomplish, but the biggest thing that you worry about, even as a fan or a perspective, how does that translate what you worked on in the bye week of those two weeks? How does that translate to a game? And then Sark responded to that exact question after the 49 to 17 win over Florida we were having fun on the practice field.
Speaker 4:We were, we were working, we were running, we were competing with one another. Today, what I felt like? I felt like we looked really fast. We looked like a fast football team. We look like a team that's very dangerous in the open field, that if we can make the first guy miss, it's probably going to be an explosive, and I think that's that's what showed up, and it showed up from multiple players today, and that that was the beauty. We weren't relying on one guy.
Speaker 2:That's. But you have a healthier team, Stevie, when for those who may not understand, I mean the eye anybody see when you play fast. Correct me if I'm wrong when you play fast as a team, it seems to me there's less injuries and there's less mistakes.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know why that is, that's just my perspective.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think you're out of your head and just playing football. You know, and that's what that means really. When you're playing fast, if, and just playing football, you know, and that's that's, that's what that means Really. When you're playing fast, you just if you get the ball in your hand, you just go and you don't think about anything else. But in zone, if you, if you're on defense, you see ball, you go get ball, you just play fast. You know, and get everything else out of your head and just play football. Those are the most fun times on the football field. Your head and just play football.
Speaker 2:Those are the most fun times on the football field, man, and that's a good quality trait to have to be that relaxed, because up here, the mental part, what's between our ears and anything we do performance-wise, which has a plan, if you don't execute it and you're thinking too much, you're not playing fast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I tell my wife all the time, man, I say, get out of your head, it's scary in there.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:Man, I love that. So one direct result of playing fast. I mean, here's the thing, sark, and that staff are always trying to create new wrinkles, create new opportunities and design plays if they have the personnel and if the mental part is not overwhelming for all of them. But this play right here, I mean, I was in awe of it. It looked like the modern-day wishbone and to me you have to have a great offensive line to do this. And now they go end around with Bond.
Speaker 4:Isaiah Bond. The end around and look at Bond Turning it on and a stiff arm for extra yardage. This is just an insane amount of misdirection. You're faking a reverse.
Speaker 2:You're faking a handoff Before we hear from Sark on why they decided to do that. What was your impression of that, stevie?
Speaker 3:So sometimes I watch football on a nerd different level, you know. And that was a great play call at the right time. Also, you're right, the O-line had to hold up to let the play develop. In the backfield, what I mainly saw and I don't know why this caught my eye so much was Quinn. Quinn had to know every single step. That was a dance that he did. He caught the ball, had to look left, look right, look in front of him and spin around to toss the ball to Vaughn, and if he doesn't do it correctly, the whole play could be blown up. So hats off to him for knowing his dance steps once he got the ball.
Speaker 2:That's my part and we'll get to. It is what a lot of people overlook is Quinn's ability to execute those type of plays, because those types of plays are littered all over this offense Misdirection. You've got to have the best step, but Sark was like you know why not? And this kind of gave us some insight on how and why they do what they do in that offensive game planning.
Speaker 4:Sometimes it's throwing mud on a wall and seeing what sticks and we ran it in practice and we're like, wow, that looked way better than we probably thought it was going to work. And so you know you run it and there's a lot of, obviously, that the ball handling kind of catches your eye. But there's a really critical block that Matthew Golden has to make on the front side just to get it started and then anytime we can get that play in particular, but on all those plays, anytime we can get the ball in our playmakers' hands in space and allow them to do what they're best at, and that's run Like we can run and when we can make a guy miss or we can block on the perimeter. It happened numerous times today. You know we talked about Isaiah having a couple of those big plays. Silas Bolden on the perimeter, a couple things he did in the open field, Jaden Blue in the open field, Trey Wisner in the open field there's a lot of people involved.
Speaker 2:You said this and so many people have when they talk about analysis and breaking down film is worry about your assignment. Do your assignment great. Do your job and do it fast in a fast mindset.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep, that's exactly what you need to do and that's what they did. Everybody had a job on that play and you can see it working out to perfection. Man, everyone had a job and they did it. And you know, I don't have any critique on that play at all.
Speaker 4:At all.
Speaker 3:I saw yeah, at all nothing.
Speaker 2:Nothing, absolutely nothing. No notes it was beautiful and it's just. You know there's so many people it looks like. You know DeAndre Moore had a couple of big drops but other people picked him up and you know they're showing the depth. But you talked about execution and before we get to some criticism, if you will, or feedback, this was Sark talking about where Quinn is now because he was receiving criticism after that Vanderbilt win.
Speaker 4:He really navigated the offense as much as it was just throwing the ball. I just felt like our rhythm, our tempo, the intent in which we were playing the game, the ball was going to the right guys on time, there were catchable balls where they could run with it.
Speaker 2:So I hear it. Is it because he's a starting quarterback at Texas? Or the criticism constantly? Because I never see or hear someone praising Quinn all the time. It's always something. What is it about him? Because there's not many QBs who can execute like him, and I have finally, finally accepted that.
Speaker 3:I don't know man For me Quinn Quinn is a great game manager for me, man, and he does a really good job. Like it's really hard to learn those steps for that one play that they're going to run in the game out of what 70 plays that they run, you know, like that's elite-level type of quarterback. But when it comes to you want him to make a play for you or need him to make a play for you, I don't know if he's there with that. So that's my little criticism, that's it. But a consistent, sound quarterback he's that all day. He's not going to do a sidearm like Mahomes and get it down the field or something like that. So that's just a small criticism and that doesn't make him a bad quarterback. He's not going to make that big-time play for you. It's just that his little bitty plays keeps him from having to have to go out there and make consistent, big time plays for you.
Speaker 2:But John Tate Cook's no longer a member of this of the Longhorns. He's gone and when Sark was asked about that, he was very quick and diplomatic about it earlier this week.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, it was mutual between the two of us.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think that's partially true. I don't know, man. I've heard six different things, four different things.
Speaker 3:I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 2:I just I heard, let's just say punctuality hasn't, uh, hasn't been a strength for him.
Speaker 3:Okay, I get that, but you also can you also, if you, you can look and see. You know, during the season, right now, teams are recruiting and if you know you're not going to be back next year, you need to jump in the recruiting pool right now. So if, uh, if he doesn't know where he's going right now, he has to be recruited and kind of figure out where he needs to go. And they're recruiting kids out of high school right now coming on recruiting visits, and so he needs to jump into that and he will.
Speaker 2:He'll land somewhere. The beauty of the portal is, more often than not, that individual will be a better person and usually a better contributor where they go yeah Things. He's an uber talented guy from DeSoto. I do too and I young people make mistakes. Young people make, we all did. It just wasn't a good fit for him for some reason.
Speaker 2:But, I respect Sark and that staff. You know what, if you don't want to be here and you don't want to, I don't know. I'm just not going to go any further because I don't have it. It's all rumors. Who am I going to confirm it with? Tell me stuff, you know, but it's nothing illegal, nothing like that. Right, tell me stuff you know, but it's nothing illegal, nothing like that. But regardless of Jontae Cook or not, stevie, part of one thing that everyone was excited about were going to the SEC, were the old rivalries returning. Outro Music that was my cell phone in 2021 at Razorback Stadium in Fayetteville. Great fans, great college football environment, but horrible, horrible place to be if you're wearing burnt orange and you're in the restroom by yourself.
Speaker 3:What happened, man? What did they do to you?
Speaker 2:Well, the tailgating was fine. It was in the stadium. You know, I'm a grown man, I can handle my own and I can go get a beer if I want to and I can go use the restroom. I have thick skin. But when you have a guy right out of central casting for the stereotype of that area with a mullet, talking all that shit, while I'm in midstream and, uh, one of those guys, anyway, they hate texas, as sark said it, they hate texas more than they like themselves. Yeah, um, but it is a beautiful part of college football. It is a beautiful part of the country too. I have amazing family there whom I sat with in 2021, who have been season tickets. Love them, love the Rylons. They're fans.
Speaker 2:But they did tell me to wear a white shirt that day because it was alternating red white and I said I am not, I'm wearing burnt orange. That's why I came here to see you guys and watch the Longhorns, and the Longhorns got destroyed Arkansas, texas. What does that mean to you, being a former Longhorn?
Speaker 3:Well, I think I told you guys that my only home game I lost in DKR Stadium was against the Razorbacks, against Arkansas and Houston. Nut and Matt Jones Was it Matt Jones?
Speaker 2:Matt Jones, big boy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, matt Jones running wasn't even on our scout report and he ran all over us that day. But yeah, man, so that's my. I mean I would have had a perfect record in DKR Stadium if that wouldn't have happened. And then we went up there the next year and you're exactly right, man, it is a tough place to play. They are spitting fire when you walk off the bus. Man, they don't like you, they don't like the sight of you, they don't even like burnt Orange around them up there. So this is a great rivalry from what is the Southwest Conference.
Speaker 2:The Southwest Conference, I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Unreal.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and so when we played each other, we still hated each other. But now we're in the same conference and we're going to play each other. I don't know how they're going to split it up, or we may keep it every year, I don't know, but it's a great rivalry. That's picked back up and they have not forgotten about it. We hadn't either. So it's fun for college football, but it's hell when you have to go up there and play man. I hated it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, be on the defense, watch your back, hell, I had two beers thrown at me. I had the last laugh. I said man, you just threw a $9 beer at me in the plastic bottle. Wow, I promise I was not instigating anything.
Speaker 3:I'm sure you weren't man, because you're a nice guy.
Speaker 2:But I wasn't backing down. I'll tell you that I hear you, man Don't let me.
Speaker 2:It's funny, but you know you look at Arkansas. They're always very gritty, gritty group. There's a lot of Texans on their roster. They're 3-3 in the SEC and 5-4 overall. What do you tell Texas fans who think are going? Maybe they don't know much about this rivalry? But what do you tell them about what to expect in this game? Because if Texas goes up there and blows them out, I would be shocked. I would not be shocked if Arkansas wins this game.
Speaker 3:I hear you what to expect when you go up there, man, I think SART and the staff is going to do a really good job of getting them ready. What to expect is a rivalry game. It's going to feel like when you go to Dallas to a Texas OU game and anything can happen. You take your hits and you regroup and you go back out there and do your job and we're going to hit them in the mouth. They're going to hit us in the mouth, but it's a rivalry game and that's what happens in rivalry games. But it's not one of those neutral site rivalry games, you know.
Speaker 2:You are not going to feel at home.
Speaker 3:I promise you You're not going to feel at home at all. So I mean, texas fans travel and they travel well, but they're going to be loud, obnoxious and if you're traveling there, man, just be careful, don't get into it with anybody. Let them say what they need to say, because you know, we live in a great state of Texas. It's Texas. They live in Arkansas, right, most of us live in and around Austin, and then it's Fayetteville. It's a pretty part of the country, but it ain't nothing else to do there.
Speaker 2:But be mad at Longhorn. Actually, their airport, Northwest Arkansas Airport is pretty nice, it's growing.
Speaker 1:Benton.
Speaker 2:Hill Rogers, that whole area stunning.
Speaker 3:It's a beautiful place. Yes, yeah, yeah, I guess you can call that right the Ozarks adjacent, or is it the Ozarks?
Speaker 2:It is the Ozarks, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's the Ozarks and it's beautiful in the Ozarks man, but I mean we live in Austin, texas. It's the hill country I want, the Ozarks or the hill country, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But you got to play them there at night. This game will be at 11 am.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was different at night, man. It was because we had to sit around.
Speaker 2:Fayetteville until the night game started? Could you feel the hatred before you got into the stadium?
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely, man, Absolutely. But we were spitting fire from the year before as well because they beat us. Remember, they beat us in our own stadium. They didn't leave our stadium either. We left the field. They were still out there celebrating, taking pictures. I remember Horns down on our field, everything. They did not go back into the locker room for another 30, 45 minutes, man.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. So keep in mind, this Arkansas team did beat Tennessee and that's their only loss of the season. I'm going to go ahead and say Texas wins by six.
Speaker 3:I hear you. This is going to be too close to call for me, man. I don't know what to say. I think that we really have to be on top of it. I think we need to. You know, stay on. You know, put this win behind us from Florida and stay on these kids really hard this week, because Mentally strong. Mentally strong going into this game, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:Well, stevie, and interact with us. We want to know what you had to say. Shoot comment right now in these comments on this live stream and jump on board at Stories man Cave on Twitter. We'll have an Arkansas week. We may have an NFL Hall of Famer great, a Razorback great on later this week and maybe talk to a Horn or two who has experience playing, who played the Razorbacks every year and people don't remember this. Texas had three hated rivals in which those teams probably hated Texas more than Texas hated them, and that's OU, arkansas and Texas, a&m all in the same year, and we got all of them in the same year this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, here we go. We're back to the old days and I love it. Yep, big shout out to our guy, taj brooks, pride of manor texas. He last night, uh, in a loss. They, they, honestly, man, they should have beaten colorado. It was a great game, um, but regardless, t Tosh Brooks is now the rushing king, career rushing king of Texas Tech. He unseated Byron Hanspar last night. He had 137 yards. Rushing. Colorado made it very difficult on him because he rushed the ball 31 times last night.
Speaker 3:Wow, wow, that's off to him. Man, go ahead on him because he rushed the ball 31 times last night. Wow, wow, that's off to him, man. So go ahead, no, go ahead. So he's the leading rusher, all-time leading rusher.
Speaker 2:Texas Tech football history.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. Good for him, man. But Texas Tech is not known for their rushing, but when they have a more balanced offense they're dangerous, Very dangerous. They could have easily won that game last night.
Speaker 2:They could have had it. You know, with much respect, and he has over 1,100 yards this season and I think he's had so last season he had 1,500 yards rushing and he's just a good person and he's stories inside the man cave. Vip alum, shout out to taj and your and your and the brooks family you guys are all amazing people and to the manor mustang community man, you, you, you raised and produced a good one, just a good human being as well. So, taj man, you're in the history books. That's going to be a hard one for anyone to unseat him as the Russian king. All right, this weekend, man, we had upsets galore. Jesus, more people storming the field, and Austin has started a trend. Let's start out. I want to start out with what happened. How about we go to Atlanta? Miami is no longer a member of the undefeated club.
Speaker 1:A very high probability to the ACC championship game and could very easily be a college football playoff team. But they absorbed their first loss of the season and won a scene at Bobby Don. There goes the goal post and you think the coach is enjoying this one.
Speaker 2:So we have more people storming the field. I get that. I get. Now I can justify that Georgia Tech doing that against an undefeated Miami.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:In my opinion we'll get to it. Miami drops way down after that because they were a four-loss Georgia Tech team. But you called it Early in the year, you thought, because they played in Ireland, I think back in August Open. You saw something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when they played Florida State. Well, we now know Florida State.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Florida State Do-do, yeah. But yeah, I thought that they had something going in and here they go, they upset Miami man and with all this new SEC talk and things like that man, we started to forget about the ACC, you know. But they got to fight over there for their ACC championship. So you know it's going to be fun to watch. November is always fun for football college football, it really is, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so Ole Miss real quick. So Ole Miss throttled Arkansas and Fayetteville Put 60 on them, if I remember.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Then they host Georgia, who was leading the SEC. Well with A&M, a&m. Well with one loss. They shared one loss Alabama had beaten Georgia earlier in the year. Did you see that coming? That, ole Miss? I mean Ole Miss put it on them.
Speaker 3:I did not see that coming, man. That was shocking to me, man. Yes, that was really shocking to me. And I don't know what's going on with Georgia man. That was shocking to me, man. That was really shocking to me. I don't know what's going on with Georgia man. I feel like they put all their eggs in our basket and then forgot about college football 28-10, bro they come into our place, beat us and left emotionally on a high.
Speaker 3:They haven't gotten off that high. I mean they almost got beat by Florida the week after. They had a bye week, didn't they?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I think so. And then they come out and then get beat by Ole Miss, you don't? It's not a. I love the way Sark phased out the season. You know, phase one of the season, phase one of the season, phase two it seems like Georgia was putting all their eggs in the Texas basket. Come in and beat us by two touchdowns, 15 points, and then stank it up. After that, georgia has 59 yards of rushing, 59 yards imploding. This seems like it.
Speaker 2:Georgia has 59 yards rushing 59 yards rushing. And it's Ole Miss.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all right. So I don't know, man, I didn't like the way Kirby was talking after the game he was talking real spicy. And I didn't like the way the SEC network was talking after our game. You know, keep saying welcome way the SEC network was talking after our game. You know, keep saying welcome to the SEC, welcome to the SEC. Man, we lost one game in the SEC and that's against Georgia, you know. And so it's telling us welcome to the SEC. But take care of these. I mean, what about the other guys that are losing right now, you know. So hopefully this right here keeps us motivated to just keep one loss on our schedule and just keep moving and win the SEC and tell them thank you all for letting us in.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, I had almost written off Ole Miss, but now they're back in it. Yeah, they're back in the playoff hunt and this is how in Oxford, this is how they celebrate. You can predict it.
Speaker 1:They're starting the field. The game's not over. The referee, Jeff Heaser, telling the fans to get off.
Speaker 2:So Kirby Smart will not be vacationing in Oxford. Lane Kiffin not happy about this development. Lane Kiffin's not happy about it because they're going to be fined significantly. This storm rushing the field, I get it celebration. But people remember, man, you get fined some pretty good chunk of change by the SEC for doing that. But, ole Miss, they're a good tackle football team and they did it. Jackson Dart's hurt. He played in and out. I mean, they're a good tackle football team and they did it.
Speaker 3:Jackson Dart's hurt he played in and out, I mean they're a great quarterback, yeah, yeah. So that's somebody that we need to be looking at as well, man. So you know, anything can happen right now in the SEC. We don't know who's going to the SEC championship game, and Texas. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I do know that we are on a class collision course.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what I did not, I was not expecting, and I know you weren't either is what Alabama did to LSU In Baton Rouge 42 to 13. Yeah, 42 to 13,. And number four for Bama man Milrow had a day.
Speaker 3:I didn't watch all the game. I saw a little bit of it. I had to network last night, let's call it that. So I really thought that LSU was going to give them a game. It's tough to play at LSU at night and they put the Tiger back in the stadium and they were just all fired up. Game day was there. So I really thought that LSU was going to come out on fire and it just wasn't. It just fell real short, man, the little bit of the game that I was watching. It felt like that they were just getting dominated by by Arkansas.
Speaker 2:You mean Alabama?
Speaker 3:Alabama.
Speaker 2:Yeah, milrow had 185 yards rushing. That was very VYS.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So what happened in Austin apparently triggered the looks like the LSU fans and Kirk Herbstreet shout out to he and his family for losing their beautiful golden retriever, ben, who was undergoing cancer treatment, and it ultimately took his life. And then he brought Ben's son with him to the game day set. But listen to Herbst Street talking about this the LSU fans doesn't surprise me. They follow the lead of the Longhorn students. Some idiots do this in Texas and now all of a sudden we see it popping up in college football. That's enough, clowns. Just what are you doing? Agreed? It's not the first bottle I've ever been thrown on the field here. I can tell that she has a sidearm guy, so I don't know if it's generational, I don't know what it is, but we got to stop that man. That's BS.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is, but we got to stop that man. That's BS. Yeah, it is. I think what they're going to do is stop serving bottles in the stadium and giving y'all water cups, you know. So it sucks. Not supposed to do it. I mean, can't do it and I hated that. We did it in our stadium and now we're getting blamed when everybody else does it. You can talk about it in the Texas Tech game when they were throwing stuff on the field and the tortillas and things like that.
Speaker 2:They've always done that though.
Speaker 3:They've always done that, but it's still. Our game came up.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, while they were talking about throwing stuff on the field. And then that game came up for us and, honestly, we're not the first school to do that, right, but we're getting blamed for starting the trend. You know, I think we're the school that just everyone loves to hate. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Oh, there's no doubt that people love and hate Texas. There is no doubt about it.
Speaker 3:Like Herbst Street Dude. Georgia has done that before you know.
Speaker 2:LSU Baton Rouge. They used to throw glass bottles.
Speaker 3:Yeah, everything, but now we're getting blamed to start this trend. You know it's stupid, but I hope everyone stops and just let the games be played. You shouldn't not be that mad to throw a $6 bottle of water onto a field man.
Speaker 2:That's insane, yeah. So we got big, big old boy coming up here to say hi.
Speaker 1:Big boy.
Speaker 2:He's named after Vince Young. By the way, this is Vincent Royal.
Speaker 3:Vincent Royal, vince Young and Daryl Royal. That's right, that's Vince from VR VR.
Speaker 2:VR. So former Big 12 member BYU and Utah played last night. Byu has the pressure because every week it's more and more because they're undefeated. They were getting beat soundly defensively by Utah. I mean, utah looked like the team that they were supposed to be this year. They were 4-4 going into that game and I'm sure injuries were a part of it. Utah led BYU 24-10 at halftime 24-10. Byu shut them out in the second half and scored 12 points. They ended up winning 22-21. However, utah had their quarterback late, late, late in the game bottled up in the end zone which looked like that was going to seal the game. But there was a defensive holding call on the BYU receiver or on the defensive back for Utah which gave them, I think, a first down, but there was a call before it too. So they end up losing. It's a big rivalry. It was in Salt Lake, the biggest crowd in Bryce-Echo Stadium. Afterwards the Utah AD. I'll wait for you to hear this before and I won't get your opinion before. I got a lot to say about this.
Speaker 1:I've been an athletic director for 12 years. This game was absolutely stolen from us. We were excited about being in the Big 12, but tonight I am not. We won this game. Someone else stole it from us. Very disappointed. I will talk to the commissioner about this was not fair to our team. I'm disgusted by the professionalism of the officiating crew tonight.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Okay, even if you feel that way, you do not go in front of a camera and say it. Steve, I hate saying what I'm about to say. Number one that's very soft. That's very soft, that's very entitled and it just really sides with the way some members of our society are. We didn't lose.
Speaker 3:They took that from us. Yeah, I see exactly what you're saying. I hear you Right, but I'm going to disagree with you.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Big 12 has been bad officiating for a long time and the back channels of the league all know this and it had to be said at some point. Something has to give at the Big 12. We played in the Big 12 for years, y'all we know that they just had bad officiating. Am I correct with that?
Speaker 2:It wasn't consistent.
Speaker 3:Which makes it bad If you're not consistent. If you're calling something on one team and not calling it on the other, and vice versa, then that's bad officiating. You've got to be even across the board and I don't care if it's bad calls, but if you make a bad call, that we think is a bad call. But you've got to stay consistent with what you did and call it on the other team. They never did that. So somebody had to say and this, this has been going on for years, and all these coaches, all these commissioners are uh, are ad's, all everyone knows this and they talk about it when they get together for the um, the big 12 conference, um, the big 12 football conference, and things like that. In the beginning of the season, they talk about all these things. And so somebody had to say it and the new kid on the block said it. He said the quiet thing out loud and something's got to give.
Speaker 3:They got to get these referees better at their job. So when we were the Big 12, we were bad with only 12 teams and we went down to 10 teams. They got what? 14 teams now. So the referee pool is even thinner. So that means the talent pool is even thinner Right. So they had to go out and hire more referees from looks like Butch League, little League, butch League football, from coaching 12-year-olds, now coming up here to referee 12-year-olds now trying to referee grown men. You know, I watched the Texas Tech and Colorado game Colorado game and I was like I had a revelation. Right then I said, man, I'm so glad we're not in the Big 12 anymore because these referees suck, they're bad, and I don't I'm not a part of the media so I can say that Because they suck, man, for real. And so all he did was say the quiet part out loud and something's got to give.
Speaker 2:Well, this just came down. Listen to this. The email just came down from the Big 12 office. Really, utah Athletic Director Mark Harlan has been reprimanded for his actions following the game. Additionally, he has been fined $40,000.
Speaker 3:And every school is going to pitch in and help him pay that 40 grand, because he said the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 2:that needed to be said, I hope that's the case, but have a private conversation because that just looks bad on a mic and a camera.
Speaker 3:I hear you, man, I hear you, but the language of politics is dead.
Speaker 2:You can agree on that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, the language of politics is dead. You know, when we were little, our politicians did not curse, they were seen in church and everything. And now we have a president-elect who doesn't care about the language of politics. The language of politics, the language of coaching, is dead. Now you can.
Speaker 2:But why let's just post-game? That's just like Jerry Jones taking over after every game. I don't want to hear from the AD.
Speaker 3:And that was my other question too why was the AD talking? I think that the AD fell on the sword for his coach. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, he said you know what? I don't need you going out there getting fined, let me do it, let me have this. I did not think about that. Yeah, he said you know what? I don't need you going out there getting fined, let me do it, let me have this.
Speaker 2:I did not think about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he fell on the sword for his coach. You know it was a famous saying from a fine American, cleve Bryant, at the University of Texas. He said you know, because we'll get as players, we will come out and we get bombarded by kids wanting autographs and things like that, but we're on a time schedule and we can't stop and talk to every kid. Well, cleve would always tell us he'd say let me be the asshole, let me be the asshole. So the AD walked over to his coaches and said you guys, I know how much I pay y'all, so y'all don't need this smoke. Let me be the asshole in this situation. He got on the mic and he said the quiet part out loud. I actually applaud the guy for doing it. Something's got to be done with the Big 12 and their officiating. We were screwed plenty of times in our own stadium.
Speaker 2:I've worked with the officiating crew from the Big 12 as a down box guy for a game and I and I've seen all them. But I will say this and I'm not, I am not defending officials at all, but it is a. It is a profession on the side. That has to your point you made. They're hurting for numbers. Yeah, Because so many have quit because of parents in high school and youth sports are out of line. Horrible people.
Speaker 3:I get that part, I really do, but at this level.
Speaker 2:Not all people. I'm talking about some parents.
Speaker 3:No, I get it. I get that, but at this level we got to do something to be better. No one's going to be perfect. We're not asking anybody to be perfect, but you got to do better 100%. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So after going down the list of the games, I think we hit all the upsets and all of the drama, Pay very close attention because there has been some significant movement post week 11 in college football. So I kept BYU barely in. Okay, I put Ole Miss up back. Alabama on top of Georgia. Alabama six, georgia falls from two to seven.
Speaker 3:I like it. You don't think Georgia is out of the top 10 with two losses.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, I think you get penalized more for getting your ass kicked, but I still think that they're a top 10 team.
Speaker 1:I mean, don't you?
Speaker 2:I mean I've got it's Oregon, ohio State, texas, then Penn State, penn State 52-3 or no. Notre Dame won 52-3. Tennessee made that big leap. Five, indiana not a lot of respect yet, but they're number six, they're moving up and it goes Alabama, georgia, notre Dame, Ole Miss, byu, miami is the one I dropped from four to 12. You can't lose to a four-loss team like that.
Speaker 3:You can't, you're right.
Speaker 2:And then on the outside SMU, I had to, even though Boise won that great running back, ashton Junte pulled BYU out of the 12. I mean, boise stayed out of the 12 to the four on the outside, they barely beat. They beat them, but not by a significant margin to Nevada, and then A&M and Clemson.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, I Okay, I got it. Yeah, I got you, you're good.
Speaker 2:Before we hit the break, hold on what's the best story of this college football season. Is it Army, smu, colorado BYU, or somebody that I'm leaving off?
Speaker 3:For me it's SMU man Okay, it's SMU Just raising all the money that they raised there and becoming a national powerhouse again. It's a beautiful campus right there in Dallas. I really like the school man. I really like what they're doing there. I like the program. We, when we played in a cotton bowl, we used their facilities to practice and um and they were just the. The staff was nice there and I like smu man, I think their story is awesome. But all these guys have really good stories. I mean, army is doing phenomenal right now, you know west point.
Speaker 2:So byu great um colorado. Everybody doubted prime time but he's got him eligible and they're seven and two um smu bought their way into the acc. They're not going to have any revenue for seven years but I'm proud of them. I think it's a beautiful campus and they're doing it. You like to see old historic winners back. But the thing about Army which is beautiful these are guys who are training to become officers in the United States military. They don't receive any NIL. Their day is regimented and hard. Ninety-nine percent of Americans could not hang with the types of days that they deal with in these service academies. I've seen the Air Force schedule up close and personal Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. No way most people could hack it. They would quit.
Speaker 2:There's no way I could hack it, they would quit. There's no way. So I'll say Army. I will. I'll say Army and you say SMU. All good stories. There's no wrong answers. Yeah, exactly, to the viewers, listeners. Which one's your favorite? What's your best story? Stevie wants to know. So does his wife Summer. They're curious what you think. Tweet us or comment right now on this beautiful sunday night. Stevie, we're going to take a quick break. We're going to watch you act a little bit and promote our lovely, lovely, uh, hardgrove family. And you know what time it is. It's time for that big tournament Texas high school football.
Speaker 2:We're going to reveal all who's in it from the ATX area after Stevie promotes and markets for Hargrove Roofing. We'll see you on the other side.
Speaker 1:Today is going to be an exciting day at the Hargrove office as we bring in a local celebrity. Welcome the kicking phenom, bert Auburn, conference champion of the Texas Longhorn football team, all-conference kicker. He's gonna be our new spokesman. Bert's the best kicker in the conference. He plays for the Texas Longhorns. As you can see, you know Bert's awesome. Hey, stevie Dude, you're really replacing me with a kicker. No, no, not at all, man. Hey guys, who wants a picture with Stevie Anyone? Hey guys, who wants a picture with Stevie Anyone? Stevie almost won a Big 12 championship. Hargrove Roofing.
Speaker 2:Know who's on your roof System Overload. Thank you, 32 Austin area teams in the dance for the Texas high school football playoffs. The road to Arlington is phenomenal. I got to give a big shout out to those mighty, mighty Anderson Trojans, first time they've been in the postseason since 2016.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:They get in the postseason. They won seven games this year.
Speaker 3:That's good.
Speaker 2:In a good district. Shout-out to all you family we had Ed Small on this year and his dad, good friend of ours, and Coach Hatcher. Get out and support the Trojans. Get out to support Westlake Lake, Travis Vandergriff, Austin, Travis, Lexington. Go buy Snow's Barbecue. Support that community out there. And Maynard New Tech. We got their second high school in the postseason High school football playoffs. Nothing like it, Yep. And you could end up in Jerry World. That's going to be fun. Oh, buddy, speaking of Jerry World, they played Eagles today but they're going to go the rest of the season without Dak Prescott because he will have season ending surgery and that is tied to the injury to his hamstring, which is not on the bone well, good luck to them.
Speaker 3:Um, I think the way the season was going, go ahead and shut them down and get them healthy for next year. They really, really got to do some major roster moves this next year and they may gut the whole staff, in fact, because this is who's his head coach name? What's the head coach name? Mccarthy McCarthy. This is his last year on his contract anyway, right, yep.
Speaker 2:Well, I think you're right.
Speaker 3:I think so. So you don't have to buy his contract anyway, right? Yep? Well, uh, I think you're right, I think so. So you don't have to, you know, buy his contract out. You just don't renew and go find you a good uh coach and a good gm to come and build your team man, and let let dac rest and rehab and get ready for the offseason, because they're going to have to put some work in this offseason. They do.
Speaker 2:Stevie? We've been saying it the stories write themselves when it does with the Cowboys. The reason why we talk about the Cowboys almost all the time is because it means that much to so many people.
Speaker 2:If it meant that much to a lot more Houston Texans fans. We would talk about it, but I will say that meter is starting to rise for the Houston Texans. We're going to get to the tick-tocking in the man cave. This is the holiday season and this is when reporters have some fun with those holiday things. Anything, trust me, I've been asked to go to some of those silly events, but they're fun tied to Christmas. But this is when this is good. This is when Christmas and live TV meet and ad-libbing. Those are great, a great marriage of things that I love.
Speaker 4:You can take part in our morning of giving today, Leslie. We got Leslie's name too, did we not?
Speaker 1:Peaches Cookie Fingers.
Speaker 4:Peaches Cookie Finger down in the parking lot. Okay, what Is that?
Speaker 1:my stripper name, Christmas elf peaches, sticky fingers, cookie fingers because peaches sticky fingers is a better stripper than health name is what I'm thinking. Everything is fine, everything is fine she said that on live TV.
Speaker 3:I love it.
Speaker 2:People wonder how do you get people to watch local TV like they used to?
Speaker 3:That's what you do. That's what you do Peaches, sticky fingers and that news anchor.
Speaker 2:she was nervous, so nervous. Just let it cut it loose man, those morning shows.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Let it cut it loose. Everybody's so uptight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, I love industry, the language of politics, the language of coaching, the language of ADs and the language of anchors is dead. Just speak your mind.
Speaker 1:Hey man, Tell me something good.
Speaker 2:That's because Stevie's always a positive guy. Yeah, stevie, do you want to go first?
Speaker 3:You go first, you go first.
Speaker 2:Well, this is something good that can a result thing can be good through awareness. We're all entitled to have our own opinions. We can vote for whoever we want to. You can go. That's the beauty of this country. You vote, and, and everybody did. Half the country voted for donald trump. Other half voted for whoever's on the left it happened to be kamala um and then voted for whoever's on the left it happened to be Kamala Um and then voted for congressional members, senators, mayors, district attorneys, judicial branches, governors in some states, governors in some states. Um, but what? I? Regardless of what side you're on, I'm a moderate dude, so I vote both sides. But one thing that I have zero tolerance for, and it's just my opinion, and I'm a moderate dude, so I vote both sides. But one thing that I have zero tolerance for, and it's just my opinion, and I'm not attacking you. But why do you find it? Why are certain people fascinated with tearing down a woman on social media and coming after women? Because you know that they're sensitive. It's a sensitive subject with reproductive rights.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I got so fed up with it. I saw it and it's talking about I own your body, always will. I saw tweets like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's dumb.
Speaker 2:And it's just I know what people are doing and it's to get a, get a, a, a, a. You know a reaction, but that's something that is one of the few things that triggers me in my life when you come after women and you hurt women, because there are women out there who are on social media who have had instances in their lives in which they have been assaulted, and wrongfully so no one deserves that and no one deserves a jump on their social media and see all that.
Speaker 2:I know you can silence them, block them. Yeah, we're just getting a little too free with putting stuff out there and that's my, that's my gripe. But what is good? We can all learn from it just be better man and be respectful to women, regardless of how you feel, because you all have a mom, probably have a sister, a bunch of females in your life. Just be respectful, that's all. I can ask man. It's where we need to be.
Speaker 3:Exactly right. I'm going to piggyback off of that and just say what's good in this country right now is political season is over.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 3:Let's go. I got tired of the ads running from both sides during my football game, during the World Series, during all the times that I want to be happy, and then all these negative ads come up. I was so sick and tired of it. That's something good that it's done. That's beautiful. Actually, america made its choice. We're going sick and tired of them. That's something good that it's done. That's beautiful. Actually, america made its choice. We're going to live with the choice. We're going to try to unite and follow the rule of law and keep pushing forward. It sucks. We're going to have to do it all over again in four years, for right now, let's unite. Political season is over Everything, and the Wednesday that VP Harris came out and conceded that was the beginning of uniting these United States. That's a good point.
Speaker 2:I didn't think about it that way. I like it.
Speaker 3:That is the beginning, because what we do know is we're not going to have someone go and rush to Capitol on January 6th this year. We're not going. We're not because she conceded and everyone is okay with the results, because it was a free and fair election this year, two years prior to that and two years prior to that. It has always been a free and fair election. This year, two years prior to that and two years prior to that, it has always been a free and fair election in this country. It was just doubt put in people's minds that really gave us a black eye in this country. Really it did. I agree.
Speaker 3:What's really something good is we had an election, we had a concession and we had a congratulations call to the winner and we can move forward now. You know what I mean. So, no matter what your political stance is, what your religion stands is in America, if you're an American, you are still an American today. No matter who won, you are going to be governed by whoever won, because we agreed to a democratic system here. That's the good thing. It's all behind us. Now let's move forward. No matter who's winning, you're going to still donate to your charities and and fight for your causes, no matter who won.
Speaker 2:So let's just continue to do that, you know and start learning to love your brothers, your neighbors, all of us. I'll say it I'll say it like I did four years ago Listen to learn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, god gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason.
Speaker 2:The best part that I love about this ending man, regardless of color, race, religion, background, gender, man, we love you.
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Speaker 3:We out.
Speaker 1:You see the drip? Yeah, I'm fitted up.
Speaker 3:I'm in my car in a Gideon I said get out.