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The Pass Rush with Stevie, Clynch, & Mike Adams: The Adams family transfer portal story
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We trace how the transfer portal reshapes careers, pay scales, and priorities, told through Mike Adams’ family story from Louisville to Wisconsin, while grading Texas’ portal haul and sizing up massive roster rebuilds across the country
• spring practices as chemistry labs for rebuilt rosters
• inside a real portal timeline, compliance, and NIL expectations
• why payment often predetermines quarterback battles
• G5, FCS, and D2 as smarter routes to snaps and film
• Texas’ portal grade as needs met, development now key
• Oklahoma State’s 54 additions and the risk of scale
• scouting realities where production beats pedigree
• UT women surging to a likely Final Four bid
• men on the bubble needing a strong finish
• high school realignment impacts and long travel
• signing day then vs now and NCAA culture shifts
• community, local support, and celebrating all signees
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Campus Banter And Sponsor Shoutouts
SPEAKER_04Stephen Lee, that is the uh beautiful campus in Stillwater, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State University. Large student body, large snowball fall, snowball fight recently. Hey, we got to do that last weekend before. Uh, except it wasn't that powdery stuff. It was uh good solid ice, man. It was on the ground, which seemed more like a week. Um, but man, that's fun, man. Make it a campus activity, a snowball fight. Did you guys have anything remotely like that when you were at Texas?
SPEAKER_07No, not at all. There was no snow in my four or five years on campus, man. But uh I don't think so, man. But we had other fun, uh, you know, uh just a few blocks away from campus is uh the good old Sixth Street. So we had we had our fun. Stillwater doesn't have a 6th Street, so they they can have fun in the snow. We had fun other ways.
SPEAKER_04Stillwater is a great college town.
SPEAKER_07It is a great college town. I actually uh went up there last year when my daughter was taking a visit at a smaller college up there. Langston. Langston, in like in Langston, Oklahoma. And um, we went to Stillwater to eat and everything. And I actually like that little town, man. It's pretty good.
SPEAKER_04Love it. I fell in love with it. And to Mama Kathy Wallenberg, if you're watching this outside of Stillwater in Payne County, Oklahoma, much love. She she was my Oklahoma mama, she volunteered, she's one of the uh she worked in the press box for every Oklahoma State football game. She would always have a plate of food for me. There you go. And Mama Kathy, love you. You're a fine American oakie. Hope to see you soon. Hey, Stevie, coming up, man. We got MA's back. He's had a lot, he's been real busy, and we're gonna he's gonna tell us some stories about how the transfer portal affected his family. Episode 511. Stevie, are you ready? Let's ride. Let's ride, baby. We all know that uh this story is inside the Man Cake series, the past rush of Stevie Lee would not be possible without the Hargrove Roofing family, the pride of Shreeport, Louisiana, uh, your hometown, of course, but you are the unofficial face and voice. And you there's something you so proudly say. And what is that?
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Offseason Priorities And Spring Chemistry
SPEAKER_04College football offseason has changed a lot. Um, since but there's still a lot of similarities there. You know, you can't just say it's changed drastically, but what's your feeling going into this offseason? How do you sum it up? What's important? What are you looking forward to the most? Not just Texas, but what are you looking forward to across the country that maybe you haven't looked forward to in most college football offseasons?
SPEAKER_07Um, I think it's gonna be a big emphasis on spring games this year. Um, I they may not play a real spring game, but the spring practices are going to be very, very important. When you got teams like um Oklahoma State that has a basically a whole nother roster, this is this is a very, very important time for them to jail together for two-a-days, or I guess we don't even call it two-a-days anymore, but um to get before camp before uh the season starts. So this is a very, very important um uh off season for teams uh around the country. So especially the University of Texas. So we got um you know two new running backs, uh a wide receiver, and a couple. Well, do we have a couple wide receivers? Uh new, yeah, and then um, and then the freshmen that are coming in. So everyone needs to really get in their playbook and then get some chemistry because our offense needs chemistry as well. So uh it's gonna be really important this offseason. I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to a few practices uh when they kick off um uh uh spring football. So uh I'm looking forward to it, man. It's gonna be uh I don't know how what format that Sartre's gonna use for the uh spring game, but I will likely be there as well.
SPEAKER_04Uh probably more of a fan appreciation type situation. Speaking of Sark, uh I ran into him at the um the pre-event to RBI's now at bat. Uh another million dollar night for RBI Austin. It's tremendous. Talk to Sark, man. That he is he is fun to talk to. Yeah, he is engaging, good storytelling, and he's just fun. I mean, he's just a good human being. Good human being. Um, it's good to talk to him. You know, he he asked me some things that we were talking about, family and things like that, and then I was telling him, man, I how you guys are able to coach and develop kids in this age where they're coming in all the time, and as you alluded to, because the portal, and there's so many influences now, much different than when you were uh a longhorn. It's just it's come these kids have got things just coming at them all over the place, and to keep them together to build a program, it takes a good staff to um make sure everything is good. Yep. So speaking of the portal, man, we got some good stories from our guy, the playmaker 83. Let's bring them in, our brother, it has been a while, and MA V Mike Adams Playmaker 83. Uh still at his place of employment. That's a sign of dedication, love for the kids, and and and sculpting the young minds in Flugerville ISD. Good to see you.
SPEAKER_03Good to see you, brothers, man. Hope everything's going well. Happy New Year, Merry Christmas, all those good things. Feel like we felt like we haven't seen each other in a while.
SPEAKER_04So man, it has been a while. And for those of you who may not, uh well, may not know, this is Mike Adams, a former Longhorn Texas receiver from the mid-90s, uh, early and mid-90s. Got a deck, put a little bit more aids on him, but uh record
Introducing Mike Adams And Portal Tease
SPEAKER_04setter, everything, fine American human being, former coach, does that does a lot of things now? He's an administrator in Flugerville ISD. Um, to catch everyone up to speed as we transition to the conversation of the transfer portal season coming to a close, so to speak. Um it has an Addams family theme to it. And to give everyone a uh like a tease and Stevie a tease, well, the Adams family is going to be experiencing this college football tradition. Hey, jump around, Wisconsin, the Badgers, Playmaker 83. Hey, tell us about your Adams Family Portal experience, and why did we just see Jump Around at in Madison, Wisconsin?
The Adams Family Transfer Portal Saga
SPEAKER_03Well, but before I get into that, first of all, I don't like Jump Around. I used to like it. The reason I don't like it now, and I guess I'm gonna have to start liking it again. While I was at Maynard coaching, and and we it was 2013, man, and we went into our by district playoff game and we played Magnolia West. We were ranked like seventh or eighth in the state, expected to make a run in state, right? I remember. And man, Magnolia West, they jumped all over, man. A little old guy named Sean Bell, who became the head coach of CD Ridge and is now University of Houston quarterback coach and went to Baylor and all that kind of stuff. All we heard that whole game was jump around. Oh I went from liking that song back in the party days to just hate hating that song, absolutely. But I have to start liking it again because uh my my both of my boys are are now at the University of Wisconsin. So uh I guess I'm gonna have to start you know interchanneling my jump around house of pain guys.
SPEAKER_06There you go.
SPEAKER_04Stevie, I was gonna ask him and then you can follow up. Um both of his boys uh obviously played here locally, uh Vandegriff and then signed with Louisville, uh Deuce, the quarterback. Um there's there's no animosity because you guys are this is the new era. If you or Stevie would have gone through this process back in your days, or any of us, you know, you usually leave, you're just not happy. But right, it's it's a different scenario. What how did this all play out?
SPEAKER_03Man, it's totally different. And that that's the thing about it. I think a lot of people are the more and more that that we continue to grow in this era. I mean, I think people would see it for what it is, which a lot of us who are in the sports world, you know, we've been saying all along, it this is basically monolith professional football. I I mean, everything from a being able to have an agent to being able to transfer as many times as you need to, which is basically free agency, and the fact that you know these guys are getting you know paid. I really can't even say the word paid money. I can't, it's hard for me to talk about because we played in the era to where, man, if you took a if you got a lunch from somebody, you were in trouble. It's a totally different era now. And I just think uh, you know, we we got to experience it ourselves. You know, the boys decided to hop in the portal right after the ball game. And uh you know, and then at that time, you know, as a parent, you you're kind of on the outside looking in, but but you definitely understand what where your your your sons are coming from, and you know, there was no it wasn't uh you know any animosity between you know the boys and Louisville. I mean, they actually wanted them to stay, which is you know, uh I guess another you know part of this whole mess, you know, because once you enter the portal, you know, the player submits his name to compliance, and then the university has 48 hours to make it official. Well, Louisville didn't exactly make it official right away, which was kind of mind-blowing to us. It's like, hey man, follow the rules, right? No, we no, they wanted to get in the portal. You know, had Louisville played things the way they were supposed to be, I mean, Texas might have had Isaac Brown because they didn't release him in the portal when they were supposed to. So that's that's one reason why Isaac Brown is not here. I know that for a fact. So Friday comes around 48 hours after they declare for the portal. They should have been official, they weren't. Um quarterback coach uh OC, um, Coach Brahm, Brian Braun, the brother Jeff Brahm, he he reaches out to Deuce, he's like, Hey man, I saw that you you know kind of entered the portal or you attempting to. Hey, what's going on? Like, you know, we want to keep you here, like what needs to happen, blah blah blah. And you know, he goes and talks to the higher up, talks to his brother, and next thing you know, I'm here I am, I'm on the phone as a parent talking to Coach Brahm. And you know, my first question was you know, I wasn't advocating or doing any of that, right? I'm just like, hey coach, uh hey, appreciate you, you know, having my boys there at your campus for the last two years. Um, you know, what do they need to work on to improve? I can't I'm always thinking like a coach, and I'm never gonna be the parent that's you know advocating for his kids the wrong way. You know, hey, and coach, he said, hey, hey, Mr. Adams Deuce has done a phenomenal job here. We want to keep him here. Uh matter of fact, he's the best quarterback we have on the roster right now. There's not gonna be anybody in the portal that's gonna be any more talented than he is. We'd love to keep him. And I said, Okay, well, coach, well, that that sounds good. I mean, because we we want to be a Louisville, you know. Let's just see if we can make this happen. He said, you know, our full transparency, we are looking for another quarterback in the portal. We you know, we just need more quarterbacks, which I totally get. And he said, and as soon as that happens, I'm gonna let you know, and we can just kind of go from there. So coach calls like the next day, and it's like, hey, Mr. Adams, we picked up a quarterback, you know, you we got the kid from Ohio State, Lincoln Keenholes. I'm kind of like, okay, that's cool. You know, we we we were fine, like because to us, it matters which quarterback were you gonna pick in the portal. Yeah, we weren't concerned with you getting a quarterback in the portal, but it does matter if you're gonna bring in another Miller Moss type, a guy who started and been established for two years. Now you're already telling us we we don't have a snowball chance in hell to compete for the job. Yeah, but they bring in a guy who hadn't started, you know. He was uh, you know, been there in Ohio State for three years. And and I think him being in Ohio State, which we were pleased with, we were like, okay, yeah, reduce. I mean, you kind of got an advantage here. You've been on campus for two years, you know the playbook, they like you. Man, you're you're QB1 until otherwise. Yeah, well, when they're paying a guy two million dollars, you know, in Lincoln Keyholds, but they're not paying you anywhere close to that, that's a problem. Money is dictating who's starting for people, not talent, not you know who's the best guy. And and it's crazy saying that because there was a time when you and I played Stevie. I mean, we knew for a fact you had to be the best guy. I mean, there was nothing, no other incentive, you know, you know, line between the weeds that that that gave coaches to say, oh, well, this guy's better than that guy because we're paying him for money. I mean, it wasn't that at all. We you had to earn your spot. It's not like that this day and age, man. It's NFL for sure. If they're paying a guy $15 million, if they're paying a guy two million dollars, that's the guy that's gonna be the guy, regardless if he's played or not. So and and which is fine too. If you're gonna pay a guy two million dollars, man, but you need to make sure you're taking care of the other guy somewhere, at least comparable, that would say that it's a it's a competition. Yeah, wasn't the case. So I was like, man, okay, well, it's time to go. So long story short, man, Louisville, the their whole quarterback room left. Oh my god, I didn't realize that. Yeah, no, it wasn't just it wasn't just us. I mean, because I think everybody just kind of saw the situation. It was like, man, you know, it's it's probably not a good situation for for them particularly. So when we we got in the portal, man, and we and you know, negotiations occurred back and forth over the weekend. I mean, there was there were a lot of negotiations, which you know, it was like, okay, they they they they do want you, but they want you at their price tag, their their labeling, and it just wasn't what wasn't a good situation. So we say, hey coach, make it official, please enter them to the portal. And man, to be honest, it got kind of ugly, to be honest, because you know, they didn't want to enter them into the portal officially. I mean, I mean, it took their agent to you know, kind of you know, thre threaten legal, you know, hey, hey, enter their name to the portal or yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07So that's what I was gonna ask, MA. Um, is there legal ramifications for delaying their portal request?
SPEAKER_03Because obviously you can be that could cost you oh for your money university, it could cost you big time, and if they delay the process, you know, it could really hurt a kid's prospects of where they may end up going, especially if you look at a situation where it's a last-minute situation and they they they don't enter you in when they should, and you're bumping up against that that that portal dateline, um, you know, you could be in trouble. But man, you know, God is good, obviously. Uh, you know, they officially got entered into the portal like that Monday. I want to say it was like the uh maybe the fifth or so. Matter of fact, it was the fifth. And uh, you know, we had to move them out of their apartment because once you enter the portal and it becomes official, that university pretty much just cuts you off. Like you're done. Like, like, like you, you got a certain time to move out. There's no more aid, there's no more any of that, right? No more payments, none of that kind of stuff. So the boys had to be out of their apartment Thursday, man. So we drove up Tuesday, packed them up, man. The whole time we're driving up there, the phone is blowing up, right? The phone is blowing up. I'm like, man, okay, here we are, Christmas in January, recruiting all over again. I mean, we you know, Deuce was getting offers that he didn't even get in high school, you know, which was surprising to me, man. And most of them came from the big 10. Yo, James Madison. I mean, I mean, they came out, they were like, hey, we're looking for QB1. You know, here's what QB1, here's the situation with that. And we we we were kind of, you know, I was like, man, I was taking aback to be honest. Uh had the way the phone was blowing up as we were driving to uh Louisville to pack them up. And uh, yo, Wisconsin call, Michigan call, Ohio State call, Indiana call. No, no, we had some, we had a nice little list, right? And uh, you know, Wisconsin was the first visit, and you know, they were pretty good, man. Wisconsin was, you know, you know, coach Kenny Guy and quarterback coach, and you know, OC and head coach, man. I mean, they they made the boys feel at home. They would say, hey, we're we're not going to uh let these guys leave here and go to Ann Arbor for a visit. No, they left Louisville Wednesday while my wife and I we were there still packing up, packing them up. They left and went to Wisconsin by themselves, and they were slated to go to Michigan the next day at 5:30. And they were on the plane, man, all strapped in, and some last-minute negotiations happened. And sure enough, they were pulled off the plane, stayed in Wisconsin another night, and uh the deal was done at Wisconsin. So we didn't pulled us off the plane, like the deal was done. I mean, it it was you know, like I said, Miss Con Wisconsin made a great push to to keep the boys in that's awesome. So oh yeah, man. I I I'm not gonna lie, I I kind of wanted them to take a visit to Michigan. I mean, would have been just good to go there, you know, new coaching staff, and right you you know, they they they made us aware of the situation there in Michigan and Ohile Stadium. I mean, it was you know, I mean, it was flattering for the offers to come like they were, even Indiana, man. And Indiana was caught in between playing, and you know, so that visit would have been pushed to the following week. And uh, you know, so it was like, man, you know, you do have some takers, you do have value. You know, so that's a good thing about the portal. I mean, players get to really see you know what their true market value is, correct? You know, and a lot of times it's better at the new place than it is at the old place, you know, it ends up being that way. Way and nah man, but we're we're thanks for the B badgers. Just to add another twist every you know what? I can't add that twist. I'm about to tell y'all that off the record. I'm about to tell you that off the record. I hear you, man.
SPEAKER_07No worries, no worries.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna tell you that off the record, man. But but yeah, it's the portal business is crazy, bro. I'm just gonna tell you that.
SPEAKER_04That's amazing. So to wrap up that story, can you confirm or deny that did a certain program give you guys a shot?
SPEAKER_03Steven, no, no, they didn't. Texas State, UTSA, all
NIL, Competition, And Market Value
SPEAKER_03those programs, they did, you know, you know, it's a few other schools around here, but um, no, Steven L did not, so you might need to talk to the brass there. We talked over uh Kobe Cartell. Is that is that who's there?
SPEAKER_04Kobe Kobe Carthage, he's good people, man. I I'm shocked. They dude, they signed. I want to say I may have my numbers wrong. They signed 20 portal guys.
SPEAKER_03They did, I think I saw that. Uh, one of the Texas running backs, also.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they got Ricky Stewart.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now they brought in a pretty good class.
SPEAKER_04They did. That's but and here's the thing between the Adams story, Adams Family Portal story, this is this great gives great perspective, not only to Stevie and myself, but to you watching, listening. But what I learned also from the portal that you and I three of us have talked about, like take Steve and F, for example. They did sign four, I think maybe five guys from Division II. Yeah, that they scouted. So it to all the high school kids, they are slighted because the portal, a lot of high school kids, but because you sign with a division two, man, you you can still fulfill your division one dreams the very next year, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Man, I I would be on record as saying the the landscape for recruiting has changed so much for high school kids. Like, honestly, if I had to go back and do it again, and if I had another son coming up right now, I don't know if I would steer him towards uh you know FBS power four. We may go the G5 route right out the gate. G five or FCS. Why not? You got a chance to get on the field earlier because you know those you know the bigger programs, man. You know, you're probably gonna sit for sure your first year. No, and possibly second year. Okay, I mean, I mean, you got a chance at the G5, FCS level to get on the field right now because the word experience has changed. Back in the day when we played, experience was okay, the guy's been in the program three years, he's ready to go now. The experience now is have you been on the field? Have you played? Doesn't matter if it's division two, division three, FCS, G5, because those are the guys that have the experience. Those are the guys that are you know going from D2 to FBS, power four. I mean, man, the kid we used to play baseball with, uh, Tony Diaz at UTRGV. Yeah, I man went there, blew up. Oh man, he got like 20 offers, power five offers, one year playing at UTRGV, FCS, first year program. So, no man, parents got to really look at this a totally different way than how our parents may have looked at it 20 25 years ago.
SPEAKER_04It's so it's very similar. Stevie and I had a great opportunity last week. We got uh Marcus Boswell, former Lake Travis uh linebacker. He was on uh the episode last week. Uh, you guys can view it on our YouTube or Facebook page. Uh Marcus Boswell, one of the most impressive young people I've ever met. Um, he went to prep school. I had never met anyone that played at a prep school. Uh-huh. Then he went to Akron. Right. And now he's at Texas.
SPEAKER_03Exactly, man. Like, like you can take the backdoor route, is a viable route this day and age in college football. Like, like, and I don't even know if I would even call it backdoor. Like, you really have to be strategic this day and age. Because, man, I mean, I mean, you're you're seeing guys, you know, you you get to the power five level, and you know, it may be two, three, four years before you play. Then it's like, man, I gotta get on the field. No, you you have to get on the field. And and like I said, there's nothing wrong, man. So if I'm at a school like a Texas state now, a North Texas, a UTSA, oh man, these guys recruiting class coming out of high school, they they need to do it. They can they got a chance to do something really great and get these top flight recruits to come to their school. Now it's gonna take a hell of a recruiting job. It's gonna take a budget like you know, well, what Tex State has that budget now because they're in the Pac-12, which I guess is they're gonna be a power conference now. But um, it might be a little hard for a UTSA, you know, different schools like that. But man, they got to do a great job of recruiting to get some of these top flight kids to come play at their schools instead of going to say a Georgia Tech or Miami or Louisville and send events two or three years.
SPEAKER_04Stevie, what you're you're one of your neighbors has a lot of knowledge. Uh Texas, they are finishing, just reeling it back home. They finished very strong, a lot of momentum. They they added another O lineman, so that's I think two, maybe three O linemen, I can't remember, uh and and another defensive lineman. So they have a and linebacker, they they've done really well. These are all needs. I'm not saying that they got everything, but what have you heard, Stevie, on this Longhorn portal class as they're because they're still active, they're still going after.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, still going at, but for me, um, I think we're gonna um I think that we should go ahead and coach up what we have. I think we did we did well. Um, I was asked to give us a grade on the portal um uh acquisitions, and I and I want to call it a B B minus, only because in the beginning we didn't get everybody that we wanted, right? But in the end, we got everything that we needed, you know what I mean? So um, so we got the offensive lineman, we got the two running backs, we got Coleman at receiver. Um, so we got the weapons on offense, we got uh big huge 380-pound DT, right? We got um linebackers, I think two running back, yeah. Um, but I think we wanted a couple more DBs, but we got everything we need, so it's all it's up to these coaches now to go ahead and coach them up. And I I would have given it a higher grade if we didn't miss out early in the portal on some guys that we really wanted.
SPEAKER_04Did MA Stevie another story of how it operates now? Texas signed a lineman out of Jackson State for the H HBCUs. See, it's proof, man. You you can still meet your dreams and goals by going an unorthodox rock.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, definitely a viable option this day and age, man. So if you're if you're a player and you know, you you know, maybe you didn't get the school you wanted coming out of high school, or or maybe you went somewhere for a year or two and it's not working out, man. That's no excuse for you to not keep grinding. I mean, because options are definitely on the table this day and age. I mean, you could be somewhere for six months, and next thing you know, you're at another school
Texas Portal Grade And Roster Needs
SPEAKER_03the the following six months, yeah, and that could be your you're in school. I mean, I mean, look at Cam Ward. Started out of UIW, went to Washington State, then goes to Miami. So you know, that that's the route here in college football these days, man. Right, like that is definitely the route to go, especially if you're in a certain position. I mean, you see the opportunities that quarterbacks here. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, they they get the opportunities that really not a lot of the other players get because a lot of teams don't have you know great quarterbacks. I mean, so you got a chance to keep a guy, like say maybe a Queen Hoovers, you know, come play for us for eight million dollars instead of you know going to the league right now or whatever the situation may be. And obviously, Quinn chose to go into the draft, just like uh the Alabama quarterbacks choosing to go to the to the draft. Uh, I mean, because he's been offered upwards to six million dollars to stay and find him another team, but you know, kind of like Quinn, he didn't want you know, he wanted his last and legacy to be you know the University of Alabama, just like Quinn with Texas. So I definitely get that part of it. But the fact that that's even an option for certain positions, I mean, I mean, it's a great option. You don't have to rush to the NFL like you guys wanted to, right?
SPEAKER_04So as we we wrap it up, this is uh, you know, everyone has their own rankings, but as far as rankings, you know, everyone's gonna rank something, but as far as portal class rankings, uh, the overall consensus, LSU number one, old miss number two, Texas three. So that's notable, but here's what this is what shocks me. You remember what happened last year to Oklahoma State? Gundy gets fired, I believe, in what what first of October, last of September.
SPEAKER_03And yeah, I want to say early on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they were depleted. Okay, they end up having a horrible year. Last year wasn't much better, but they hire Eric Morris after the job he did with North Texas, they did a great job. Oklahoma State has the eighth-ranked transfer portal class. But get this, this number, I had to double-check it. I had to count the number of players to confirm this. They brought in 54 players through the portal.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they they and I think they lost the most players too.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03From from their team. So you know, it's a wait-and-see situation with a lot of these teams because you don't really know how good the teams are gonna be until you really kick it off. I mean, the interesting thing about them is you know, they're bringing mostly the whole North Texas squad in the quarterback, right? And you're going to the Big 12 conference, so it's gonna be a step up in competition, step up, you know, in opponents and just preparation week to week. So it's gonna be different than you know, playing a North Texas schedule for sure. But man, they got the talent. I mean, you know, those guys of Texas, North Texas, they definitely proved they could play. You know, now you're just playing. Man, foot to me, football is football, you know. And if these guys didn't think it was this day and age, they there's no way they would be going to get guys from Jackson State or some of these smaller schools or even North Texas. I mean, guys can play, they can play. I mean, it's the reason NFL draft guys all over. Man, you see scouts everywhere at all the games. That's why their scouting departments are so large because football players are everywhere. So, yeah, nah, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see next year how you know these teams you know do with all the new players.
SPEAKER_04Were you coaching at Vandegriff when Mester Meyer was there?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he was there. He he he was uh him him and Deuce were our quarterbacks, you know, QB one and QB1 and QB2.
SPEAKER_04Did you see this out of Drew?
SPEAKER_03Well, I I just thought he, I mean, he he was good, but he wasn't the you know, he wasn't the starting quarterback for our team. But but he was good. No, I I I saw it. I was like, man, that you know, that quarterback's good, dude. He he's a good quarterback, you know, he was good. It was unfortunate that you know either one of those dudes had to lose, and and you know, I think part of it was you know, he hadn't played a game yet, you know, hadn't hadn't started, none of that kind of stuff. And um, it was it was a battle, it was a competition. I mean, I mean, he had the leg up because you know, Deuce was coming in, didn't know the system, and and I'd say really Drew was QB1 all through the summer. I mean, I mean he knew knew the system, but you know, we get into the game, and you know, obviously, man, that's that's when everything kind of you find out when the game, when the lights cut on. Yeah, and you, you know, Deuce being a four-star at the time, and and you know, you know, comes out there and starts the game because really the competition was gonna run through the first three games of the season, and whichever guy performed better at that point was gonna be the starting quarterback.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03You know, we we came out, we beat Dribbling Springs, you know, kind of shut him down. I mean, Deuce throws a 55-yard bomb, third player of the game. I mean, he has a long run later in the game. And um, I think Drew first couple series, you know, it didn't go so hot or whatever, and that we ended up winning the game, you know, and that's with you know each one of those guys like Austin and series. You know, so I mean, Deuce is kind of showed that he had the experience. I mean, he led the state and passing the year before that, you know, in 5A, you know, all-state football player. I mean, I mean, the cream always is gonna rise to the top, but I I saw Drew was good. Drew, Drew could have been a D1 quarterback, you know, and that just goes to the scouting recruiting. I mean,
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SPEAKER_03guys got to really look deeper now because yes, so we definitely had two great quarterbacks on our team at Vandegriff in 2023.
SPEAKER_06Gotcha.
SPEAKER_03That's amazing. That's that's for sure. But somebody had to lose.
SPEAKER_04That's that's the tough part. Well, it's gonna be fun because you're gonna now see he's Drew's gonna be the quarterback for the Oklahoma State Cowboys, and uh I I know a lot of people in Austin and people like you who uh help coach him. And I mean, that's everybody's proud of that, and maybe one day he can be like a Drew Brees and play in the Super Bowl, guys. I I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Maybe I'm in the minority here, I really don't care. The Patriots and the Seahawks. I'm I'm I'm with the Longhorns who are playing this game. I'm excited about that, but I have never been so disconnected from a Super Bowl than I have the last two years. And this one, I don't know. What are you guys thinking? Because usually I love the prop bats, Patriots, Seahawks. What's gonna happen?
SPEAKER_07I got Seahawks, man. Why? Why uh Byron Murphy, but uh Michael Dixon, yeah, and uh yeah, Dixon, but um Quandre Diggs. Um he's on the practice squad there, but uh I just think that they have a better team. The the I think the Super Bowl was played last week um with Seattle. Who do they play?
SPEAKER_03Um Rams.
SPEAKER_07The Rams, yeah, Seattle and the Rams. Yep. Um, and I and I wanted that game actually. I I thought that the um LA was gonna win it, and then you know they pulled it out. Uh the Seahawks did, and I was rooting for Pune in that game. But um the Patriots, they barely got by with a hobbled quarterback or a uh a non-starting quarterback, you know. So I I really think the Seahawks got this one. Um and you know, it's it's they're playing it on the West Coast, right? So the Patriots got to go all the way across the country to play this game in San Francisco. I don't I don't I don't see them doing well on on the west coast, all the way across the country.
SPEAKER_04MA, you're you're an AFC guy. You played for the Steelers. Now you're gonna pull for the Patriots. Is that how it works?
SPEAKER_03Man, unfortunately not. And the you know, I'm I'm a football player, a coach, a fan, and the Seahawks have been rolling, man, here the last half of the season. I mean, their defense definitely, I think, the the best in the league. Um, you know, like CD said, that that Broncos, Patriots game. I mean, the Patriots really struggle. I mean, but the Patriots defense is great too. They proved that, but when what they didn't have to try too hard to be great against uh, you know, Broncos backup quarterback. I mean, they broncos couldn't move the ball. The Patriots couldn't move the ball, and the Broncos have a great defense. If the Patriots are gonna win this game, man, Drake May is gonna have to play out of his mind. Like he's gonna have to play out of his mind. And and frankly, he may play out of his mind. I don't know if he has the weapons, to be honest, to beat Seattle. Like, like, like I can't think of an explosive guy he has on offense other than Henderson, the running back, who he has plenty of, you know, 20 plus runs this year, but there's no deep threat offensively out wide. I mean, I mean, they don't have a Welsh Walker going over the middle of the field like the Patriots are used to. Um, I just don't think they're gonna be able to withstand, you know, the rush that Seattle might bring to them. It could get ugly. It this could be the the Super Bowl that happened between the Patriots. Well, was it no the Broncos and the the Seahawks when they blew out Peyton Manning and the Broncos?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it could be one of these type of games, it could be like the Cowboys and the Bills in 1992. Yeah, it could be like that for sure. Well, that was an ass kick in that day. It was played in the Rose Bowl. Yep, it was played in the Rose Bowl. Um, real quick, and I think it's funny, and I and I Stevie I do you guys in Louisiana do the high schools do district realignment every two years or four years? Do they do that?
SPEAKER_07I don't know what they do nowadays. I hadn't been back there since for 26 years. But they did not do it when I was in high school, no.
SPEAKER_04Okay,
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SPEAKER_04so Mike and I with a lot of experience, and you know, they do it every two years, University Interscholas Lead, the uh governing body of high school athletics. So there you can find all the realigned districts on our social media pages. Um, there's also episode 510 and Daniel, not Daniel Hunter, Donald Hatcher, uh the head coach of Anderson. So they were placed in a district with back-to-back defending state champion Smith Valley. Yeah, that's and there's a little bit of traveling, but the reason I'm showing you this one just focus on district 13, 5A, division two. What do you notice about that? What stands out?
SPEAKER_07Well, for me, uh the 281 corridor right there, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So Liberty Hill, their new high school and Liberty Hill. So they're on highway 29. Okay, they gotta drive all the way to 281 and start heading down to Bernie and then cut over to New Bronfels or these San Antonio schools. That's a lot, that's a long distance. That's all that's the only thing.
SPEAKER_07I I hear you, I hear you, but um, I actually like that drive on 281. This is beautiful.
SPEAKER_04I love 281.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it'll be a bunch of deer during the football season. Yeah, no, no, that that's a hole. That that's a treacherous district right there in terms of travel.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it is. Well, as we pick up the pace, UT Women's Basketball, huge game Wednesday night. They're facing hosting, I think it's number five LSU, Kim Mulkey. I don't know what she's gonna wear, but you know, she'll she'll bring the entertainment. Um you guys, you know, do you feel comfortable regardless of what happens? Is this a Final 14? It looks like it. UT women.
SPEAKER_07Uh yes, I would say yes. Yeah, together, yeah. And uh, coach, when he throws that uh that jacket, he means business, man. Business.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it would be disappointing. It'd be disappointing if they didn't make the final four.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03I mean, they're definitely one of the top 14, 15 in the country. I mean, so I don't see any reason why you know they play tough competition, they've beaten some of that tough competition. So they uh there's like it'd be disappointed if they didn't make the final four.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'll go as far. They will play for the national championship this year. They're gonna take a step for that. Here's the thing: I don't know if anyone's noticed the crowds for the women's basketball games at the Moody Center off the charts. People are showing up like it's back when in Mike Adams' days at Texas in the 80s.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, they they uh man, I mean, being a top ranked team, I mean, they're the you know, proud of our fans for getting out supporting the girls like that, and um, you know, I think everybody with they all have the same expectations, like like if they don't make it to a final four, it's gonna be a disappointing point in the year. And uh, you know, they they beat Oklahoma on Sunday, and I know that was that was a game I wanted to go to too. I did too, you know, no, to see all you, but uh and see Savez. But um looks like we got the best of them during that game, and you know, it's getting that time of year, man. So I I think our girls and the support they're getting. I mean, what is the final four at for the ladies this year?
SPEAKER_06Not sure, huh? I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_04I'm not it. I I should know this. Is it Houston? I I want to say it's somewhere in Texas, but I, you know.
SPEAKER_03Where is the last year?
SPEAKER_04I think it was all Final Four this year. We're gonna find out. I should know this. It's in Phoenix.
SPEAKER_03Phoenix. So you know, so hopefully they can get a good draw. You know, lockdown, maybe the uh, you know, maybe we want a Midwest seed, maybe a South C. You know, maybe maybe we can get a regional, you know, or a first, second round game.
SPEAKER_04They'll definitely get first, second round, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_03Right, right, right. At Moody over there, so uh yeah, nah, nah. The girls look good, man. Uh, you know, and the boys, I know they're trying to find their way, but the girl, the girls look good. Carrying that basketball mantle this year.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of the guys, uh, this was a problem a week and a half ago.
SPEAKER_02And it has plagued us from the opening tip of the first game until tonight. It's not the officials, it's not Kentucky. We will foul the living out of you.
SPEAKER_04So, Sean Miller, first year head coach, since that Kentucky
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SPEAKER_04loss, where Texas fouled the shit out of him. Um, and they've done it all year. Yeah, um, they won two of the last three, including beating Oklahoma and Norman.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_04I think they're three, maybe four wins away from securing an NCAA tournament spot. I think 17 wins gets them in.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's gonna be tough, man. They're they're gonna have to I think they need to finish out the regular season strong and maybe even make it to the to the semis in the SEC tournament. Yeah, I think if they do that, that they'll for sure get in. But but right now, if I had to choose today, I don't know if they're in.
SPEAKER_04I don't either, but I'll tell you what, we do need we it's hey, this is our favorite tradition right here. Stevie, Mike, uh is there any short story that you can think of a man cave story worthy that you remember that ties to this this time of year where there's no college football, signing days over with, but it's super bowl weekend. And you guys have any man cave super bowl weekend type related stories or around about this time of year?
SPEAKER_06Oh that's a great question, Sean. That that was too specific.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that is uh how about a how about a signing day story? Now anything you remember, either of you.
SPEAKER_03Uh well, I get I guess uh I just licking my own signing day. Man, is it via fax machine? And you know, I had my my my UT burner horns, you know, sweatshirt on right there in my coach's office. So, yeah, just a sign of how got different times are, you know, a lot of a lot of schools are getting ready tomorrow. Have these big extravagant signing days in the gym, and the guys are you know moving their hats around and things like that, and um, yeah, man, tot totally different, totally different than when I mean think about that facts, facts machine, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And and and the first Wednesday of every February, yeah, was the only signing day forever. Now you got early. Stevie, is there any story or any moment about your signing day? Because you you got you had a lot of long horns sign out of three port evangel.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, uh, but my signing day was I didn't have a real signing day. The signing day, I was already on campus. Uh I was uh early to be a mid-year, exactly. So I came in in January. But uh a little bit of a funny story, I'll make it quick is uh Phillip and I uh played our last high school football game in the championship in the Superdome in New in New Orleans uh December 13th. Uh we we committed to uh Texas short uh real right before that game and um played a game December 13th. We have Christmas and New Year's, and we are ready to to come on campus at the University of Texas January 9th. Well, the clearing house, which which clears all the football players back then, was closed over Christmas, so we didn't get cleared through the clearing house to be on campus um until uh well I'll tell you this we're on our way to Austin. Mac Brown, Cleve Bryant, Gene Bryant gets in the office and say, You cannot be on campus. You guys gotta find a hotel. We're at the hotel across the street from the University of Texas at the day's end, waiting for them to find somebody to go and give us clearance from the clearing house to get on campus. So two nights in a hotel with all of our stuff packed in our cars to um to get on to campus to move into our dorm because the rest of the school wasn't even here yet. They wanted us to come in to get all settled and everything. So um they finally got somebody to clearing house. They get they get the clearance that we can come on campus. Cleave Gene and uh Mac Brown get us all settled in. They get somebody to uh to open dorms up for us and get us all settled in, and that's my story of leaving Shreveport, my mama's house and my dad's house to come to the University of Texas, and I never look back. I've been there since 26 years, man. January 9th, uh 2000, when I moved here. So that's fast-paced living.
SPEAKER_04See what Adam signed at Arlington Sam Houston. Back then, coaches could come to the signing, like college coaches. So that's when Jason Rees and Corby signed from Anderson High School, there was one of the Texas football coaches there,
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SPEAKER_04and they can't do that now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, no, and and I guess uh to add to add to the story a little bit, mine kind of came down to the very end because Tennessee was recruiting me very hard. And so is the University of Michigan, and um, man, Tennessee was calling right up to the last minute, you know, about joining their program. And I took a visit out there. And uh man, and man, if it if it weren't for Buggy Gobboat, actually, because he recruited me, you know, from UT and you know, Coach McIvig and Coach Bryant, you know, they came to my school and all that kind of stuff. I I don't know if I would have been a long horn. If it weren't for McAvee getting a job, I I wouldn't have been a long horn because I just remember seeing him coaching that Illinois and that offense when they beat Colorado that year, and he was slinging the ball all over the place. And I was like, Man, you know, and I I received some contact from Illinois and things like that. And when he got the job here, man, that kind of that's what brought Texas in the fold for me.
SPEAKER_06There you go.
SPEAKER_03That wouldn't have happened. Can't say that would have been a long horn, brother.
SPEAKER_04Dude, that's a I love that story. Bucky Godbolt is one of the funniest human beings I've ever met in my life.
SPEAKER_03What one of the realest guys, too. Yeah, I mean, hey, when when when when coaches go to your living room, man, and they talk to your parents, and yeah, we're gonna take care of this guy, we're we're gonna be those parents away from home. I think a lot of it's just coach speak. Bucky, Bucky took care of his guys, he recruited. I can tell you that, man. Bucky made sure we had forks and utensils in it in our apartment. I I mean, Bucky was real. He was he's real. I don't know if they I don't know if they make him like that anymore. Man, that's a matter of fact. I had to get home. I guess I can tell the story now because there are no more NCAA violations as it comes to you know, the statute of limitation is gone. I I had to get home, man. I kind of had a family emergency, you know. Birth of my my my oldest son, and and man, yeah, I didn't have any money to get home. And man, coach coach, coach gobbo took care of me. He sure did. So that's that's buggy's forever gonna be my guy.
SPEAKER_06There you go.
SPEAKER_04That's just uh we all need people like that. And NCAA should have never had that rule where you couldn't help a a kid, right?
SPEAKER_03Right, right.
SPEAKER_04You know, but the way it is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I love NCAA. Don't don't try to retroactively punish Texas now. Don't wait, don't don't don't do that. That was almost 30 years ago. Hey, you never you never know, dude. They might try to come back and oh uh, we knew Texas was doing this. Let me see this. Let me see the records, they can't leave leave shark alone, man. Don't mess with Shark. Shark had nothing to do with it, nothing to do with it, live alone.
SPEAKER_07They can't do anything. They gave um um Reggie Bush's Heisman back, so it's over, as they should, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And the Supreme Court said, You have you guys have no power.
SPEAKER_03Yep. Matter of fact, I we we might have a game, I might have a game to play because they suspended me and Lavelle Pinkney for for riding in the rental car. So I may have one game of eligibility left. Oh, hey man, let's go do it. I think I want that. I think I want that. We need a slot, need a slot, slot receiver. Oh, yeah, and uh a halftime actually against Baylor, our senior year, because Winford Tubbs, an alumni and former player and teammate, you know, he paid for our breakfast at the four seasons. That is unacceptable, yeah. Very unacceptable. Man, that guy was our former teammate. He can't buy us breakfast. So you're telling he either man, that's exactly what happened. Now, it's either they they they shunned us for him buying us breakfast or the fact that we were at the four seasons eating breakfast.
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SPEAKER_03So you know, like we weren't supposed to be at the four seasons.
SPEAKER_07And how did they catch win of that, man? Who told that?
SPEAKER_03Man, well, you know, people in Austin, they see football players, they're like, oh, so so we saw so-and-so at the four seasons eating eating brunch. Like, okay, can we not eat lunch with brunch with our our former teammate? I mean, we played with Tubbs, and he just happened to be in town. You know, it was myself, Westbrook, Chris Carter, and Trey Thomas. You know, we're seniors, and you know, we don't know how Tubbs paid for his room. I mean, obviously, I think he had his agent book his room and all that kind of stuff. And you know, the the meal was on his tab, hey man, and they really started digging like, okay, well, who paid for this meal? And they saw that his his agency company had paid for it, so they're like, Oh, these guys received the legal benefit. It's like, man, hold up, we didn't even know. Man, we we're eating lunch with our teammate, eating brunch with our team. Yeah, man. This he double. You know what? This double man, stay gone, stay out of the affairs of college football this day. College football is in a much better place than it was 30 years ago. I promise.
SPEAKER_07Yes, I feel like you got a case, man. Go get you an attorney, man.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I should dude. Hey, I want I want my game back and a halftime back, so I got a game and a half place somewhere.
SPEAKER_07Get your lunch money back too, man. Now we can say MA would have been a million-dollar receiver, and that's um 200 grand per game, right? So there you go, man. That's your money right there. You monetized it.
SPEAKER_03It's crazy work by the NCAA.
SPEAKER_04Playmaker 83. He they four seasons needs to use you to market their brunches on Sundays.
SPEAKER_05No question, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I guess nobody kind of turned the nose about us with being there now. All the players eat there probably all the time now. Yeah, hey, much love, my brother. Yes, sir. Y'all too, man.
SPEAKER_04Hook them. Hey, hook them hook. We'll see. Hey, we're gonna wrap things up. We're gonna wrap things up with Mr. Positivity over here, Stevie Lee, when we're gonna tell something good. We'll see another side of this break.
SPEAKER_01Here at Hargo Roofing, uh, we try to think outside the box to kind of get the creative juices flowing. So I brought in my friend Stevie Lee, former defensive tackle for the Texas Longhorns. Um, he's gonna help the team strategize, really motivate them, light of fire.
SPEAKER_08This guy's gonna block down, this guy's gonna block down. You put your butt into the guard, and that way my mic linebacker gets free to do what.
SPEAKER_01Not only are they gonna learn a thing or two, but they're gonna also leave with a great attitude and a bunch of smiles on their faces.
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry, what does this have to do with roofing? Exactly. Get out right now. I said get out.
SPEAKER_01For me, that's what it's all about is just having fun, making our employees have a great time. Hard growth roofing. Know who's on your roof.
SPEAKER_08Hey Ben, tell me something good.
SPEAKER_04Um Stevie Lee, MA cooking for the usual. He was cooking, as we need to make ourselves a little bigger. That's what she said. Um, let's let's do what we do best. End things on positivity. Tell me something good, my brother.
SPEAKER_07Something good and she's never said that to me.
SPEAKER_04I don't think she did too. I don't think I've been uh in that direction that she directed that to.
SPEAKER_07Right. Oh man, something good, man. You all you made me mess up. I had one all queued up. Something good is man. Uh, we're going into the spring. Um, it felt really good today. The weather was nice. Uh, get out and do something in Austin, Texas, y'all. I don't think we're gonna get another freeze this year. Uh uh, we got that one early on and uh this this last week, and uh man, it's gonna be in the mid-70s the rest of the week. So get out there and do something, man. Austin, Texas is a great place to be. Uh, plenty of um different barbecue spots to go to. I went to uh Leroy.
SPEAKER_06Uh Roy Lewis, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Roy and Lewis uh last week, man. I was out working in South Austin and uh stopped by. Best burger I well, one of the best burgers I've ever had in my life is uh is their uh brisket burger. They they take up the um the brisket and grind it up and make it into a burger patty. It was very, very rich, uh, but it was really, really good. So man, get out there and enjoy Austin, Texas, man. It's it's the springtime. Get out there, it's not too hot, it's not too cold. Uh it's just right to go for a walk in downtown and um and experience Ladybird Lake. They just opened a new bridge up uh off of uh Riverside and uh Pleasant Valley Bridge. So you can take the loop all the way around Ladybird Lake. It'll take you hours to it'll take me hours to walk it. So um uh just enjoy your town that you live in. Um and if you're not here, come in. We we love to have you,
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SPEAKER_07but leave. Don't don't stay. Leave. Um, but enjoy it while you're here and leave leave your money and and and enjoy it. So uh just enjoy Austin, Texas. That's my uh something good right now.
SPEAKER_04Man, I love you, Stevie. Uh I've got two things that are quick. Mike Adams alluded to it uh coming up the first Wednesday of every February is signing day. Uh, you're watching this, we recorded this on Tuesday night. Just being up front and transparent. I'll tell you what's good. When you've got friends who text you, hey, my son or daughter is signing, we'd love to have you there. I get about not every year, but I it makes me feel really good because I don't have children. And when I won't have people invite me to come, share that moment with their family. For example, Charlie Taylor, the head football coach at Pflugerville. You met he and Cole, the quarterback. Uh Coach Taylor just texted me, Cole is signing with the junior college tomorrow. That's awesome on Wednesday. And I think now he's one of the best quarterbacks and one of the best baseball players in the state of Texas. Hey, for the beautiful town of Shreeport, Louisiana, the home of Stevie Lee and the home of Hardgrove Roofing, to which Stevie Lee always says, What? Hardgrove Roofing, know who's on your roof, and to the beautiful city in East Texas, Nakadosis, that is the home of my college alma mater, Stephen F. Austin State University in Austin, Texas, my birthplace, my hometown. And to everyone, wherever you're from, I'm sure it's beautiful. Sure, it's beautiful wherever you call home, resign. Thank you for watching and listening. Share our content on all social media platforms. And Stevie Lee, you know what? To the OG Man Cave boys, that being Harbaugh Hart, Big Mike, and the Coach Mo. What do we tell him, Stevie Lee?
SPEAKER_07We out. You did a jump in video. I'm in my car in the kiddy.
SPEAKER_05I said, get out.